POD Go + Helix Live Sound

[JustTsuki]

I'm using a Helix for all my live sounds and I've recently started experimenting with setting up my pan in the Helix itself so I don't have to rely on the sound guys to do it. I'm using two cabinets on all my presets and I pan them hard left and right and then I use the output block for my overall panning. So based on parts of the songs, I've got my main output from the Helix going either fully to the right for harmony & doubled parts, dead center for lead, and hard left-right for when I'm the rhythm guitar and the other guy is doin lead.

 

Is there a way to achieve this on the other guitarist's rig? He uses a POD Go and I've been able to set up the centered lead and the full left for harmony and doubled parts, but I can't figure out if it's possible to split his signal left-right the way I do with the Helix?

 

On my rig it's different from keeping both cabs centered and lowering the volume, since if they're hard left-right they don't mix together, but since he has only one cab would a centered sound with a volume cut be the way to go? Ideally I want to be able to push his sound very wide and in the background so there is space for it but it doesn't fight with my lead in the center.

[grdGo33]

Go is single path, so not possible to have different paths for left and right. But you can pan the sound from the output block (last block) left or right, but I'm not sure what you mean exactly by;

 

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I've got my main output from the Helix going either fully to the right for harmony & doubled parts, dead center for lead, and hard left-right for when I'm the rhythm guitar and the other guy is doin lead.

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possible to split his signal left-right the way I do with the Helix?

 

left = left, right = right, so left or right sure, but left + right = center.

 

But yeah, just change the pan value on either footswitch or snapshots, or bind the value to the volume/wah pedal if you're not using it, where min/max = left/right, which would allow you to control the pan without a bunch of snapshots or footswitches, in an analog manner.

[grdGo33]

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Ideally I want to be able to push his sound very wide and in the background so there is space for it but it doesn't fight with my lead in the center.

How do you achieve that in the Helix?

 

I think you might be able to achieve it via effects, such as reverbs or delays, by increasing the mix value; reducing the amount of dry and increasing the wet.  The reverbs, especially some of the fancy ones, will give you tons of ambience;  like a diffuse type of sound.

 

Otherwise, like I said earlier, from my understanding your left and right would need to be different to result in a wider sound, and I know that this can be the result of DSP, but I don't recall it being a built-in effect.  Actually, volume/pan section, hopefully they're in Go!:

 

https://helixhelp.com/models?categoryId=15&subCategoryId=5

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Stereo Width

Based on: Line 6 Original (utility to collapse stereo paths)

Available Parameters

• Width
• LR In Swap
• Balance
• Level
• R Polarity

Stereo Imager

Based on: Line 6 Original

Firmware version: 3.00

Synopsis

Used to increase the apparent stereo width of your signal when connecting Helix to two amps or a stereo playback system; just make sure there aren't any mono blocks after it!

Available Parameters

• Mode
• Width
• Pan
• Level

 

[JustTsuki]

On 6/16/2024 at 4:32 PM, grdGo33 said:

How do you achieve that in the Helix?

 

From the mixer block on the Helix.

 

For leads I keep both cabs centered, which I can do on the Go by keeping the output block centered:

 

For the doubled parts I push myself right and the output block of the Go left:

 

And when the other guy is doing lead, I spread the two amps to the sides:

 

The last one results in a lower overall volume, because the two cabs aren't mixing together and I think it leaves a nice space for the other guitar. I'll see if the pan pedals are available in the Go and if I can get them to work, if that doesn't really get a similar result to the Helix, I guess I'll have him keep the output centered and just throw a little volume cut.