themetallikid Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 So I'm delving into the dedicated Looper realm (qualifier: I'm not really getting deep though), and just have a question about where to put it in my chain. So maybe I'll come to my own conclusion typing this out, or maybe I have it all wrong in my head. I'll be using this for my solo acoustic shows as a rhythm guitar player only, to provide background to play some solo's and extend some songs a bit. I'll have pre-recorded loops of the rhythms saved in the pedal (or card if I get one, seems like it should be a thing though), and just want to turn on a solo 'sound' for my live guitar. The typical options would be in front of the Helix or in the loop, no? In front - This seems to be the worse of the two as the looper output would then be fed into my lead sound and thus causing all sorts of audio shenanigans to come through. Loop - This seems more logical as I would put have it on its own path, and thus control it on the pedal itself?? I run my solo shows using a single preset. Path 1 is my guitar, Path 2 is my vocals. However, I'm thinking this is where I'm going to run into an issue.... I keep a separate monitor 'mix' if you will by splitting off paths 1a/2a to the 'b' sections right at the end of the chain, add a gain block (to hold the split only) and then adjust my monitor 'mix' via the output blocks on the B path. So 1a/2a are my signal paths, the outputs are for the FOH. 1b/2b are only for my 1/4" output to my monitor. Thus, If I put the Send/Return/FX Loop block(s) at the end of path 1A right before the split, I get that it would send audio to both monitor/FOH and as long as I'm not recording/overdubbing anything on to my loop, my lead would just play along with the JamMan's audio being fed through the FX Loop Block? Or is there a better way to do this?? Edit - Follow up question - I ran a pedal in the loop previously a few years ago and it had more noise than I cared for for that pedal at the time (think it was a Feedbacker).....would I need to worry about that in this presets context? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmalle Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 I'd do it like you suggested: an fx loop block before the split. I'd set the fx block's Mix to 50% and use the JamMan's Dry Defeat feature (press and hold the Dry Defeat button to defeat dry signal through the JamMan). This way you don't add noise or latency to your direct guitar signal. As a rule of thumb: added noise from the fx loop is mainly a problem when it is added in front of amp / distortion models which amplify the noise. So in your case not so much. Have fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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