javrt Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 I Can't Update my devices because the OS 10.14 is not supported by the new version of HX Edit. In the Download page say that it's compatible with MacOS Mojave (10.14) But it doesn't. I know the obsolescence of the computers but I think that a program used to update and manage presets of a multiFX can't be supported by the old operating systems it's too much. I use programs like reaper that it's supported by almost all the OS. I'm sure you can do it better. I know that i can update in another computer but if i do it I can't used it with my old and thrusted Mac that I use to record and study. I hope you can think about all the people that can't change theirs computers by a sooooo expensive new mac. Best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 3:19 PM, javrt said: I Can't Update my devices because the OS 10.14 is not supported by the new version of HX Edit. In the Download page say that it's compatible with MacOS Mojave (10.14) But it doesn't. I know the obsolescence of the computers but I think that a program used to update and manage presets of a multiFX can't be supported by the old operating systems it's too much. I use programs like reaper that it's supported by almost all the OS. I'm sure you can do it better. I know that i can update in another computer but if i do it I can't used it with my old and thrusted Mac that I use to record and study. I hope you can think about all the people that can't change theirs computers by a sooooo expensive new mac. Best Hi, You may want to read this:- Hope this helps/makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtracks Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Hey Javrt, I just had my HX Stomp updated to 3.80 with HX Edit 3.70. Works OK, but the editor doesn’t support some new amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtracks Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 UPD: I solved the problem (at least partially) by install both versions (3.70 and 3.82) and copying all the “resources” folder of the newer version app to the older app. Now I just use the old app with the new “guts”. All amps an effects are visible now in 3.70 version. Seems like a good temporary solution. YMMV. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou-kash Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 1/3/2025 at 8:12 AM, jamtracks said: copying all the “resources” folder of the newer version app to the older app. Now I just use the old app with the new “guts”. I like this intrepid approach! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtracks Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 1/3/2025 at 12:05 PM, lou-kash said: I like this intrepid approach! :) If it looks stupid, but it works, then it's not stupid 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou-kash Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 What sometimes also used to work to make apps run on older unsupported MacOS, was to edit the LSMinimumSystemVersion key in *.app/Contents/Info.plist But this rarely works these days, even with all possible Apple Paranoid Security Shields™ down. It definitely didn't work for HX Edit v3.82. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiganderton Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I'm running into more and more programs, like web browsers, that require macOS 11 (Big Sur) or higher. That was the first macOS to support ARM processors, so the implication is that if you're a Mac user and not running Apple Slicon, Apple wants you to buy a new computer. And since there's such a push to force encourage people to buy a new computer, there's not much incentive for companies to update older software for an ever-diminishing user base. Do I like that? No, nor do I like that Apple promised FireWire devices could always work with Thunderbolt adapters. But if the OS doesn't support FireWire, it doesn't matter if the hardware does. With music industry companies like Line 6, if Apple or Microsoft sneezes, Line 6 catches a cold. Remember all those emails from companies a few months back, urging users not to update yet to the latest macOS because the companies needed to test and patch their plugins? It happens a lot, and that's time not spent on developing new products, providing support, or giving their employees raises. Just sayin.' /rant 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtracks Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Seems like the same thing for the Windows 7 users: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou-kash Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 1/4/2025 at 7:27 PM, craiganderton said: And since there's such a push to force encourage people to buy a new computer, there's not much incentive for companies to update older software for an ever-diminishing user base. That's nothing new though. I've been through the 68k to PPC transition, upgrading from System 7.5.3 directly to OS 9. Then I've been through the OS 9 to OS X transition. Then the "Classic MacOS" layer was phased out. Then came the PPC to Intel transition. And so on, and so on. Every now and then there came a time when I just had to "let go" and find some new ways of doing things. On 1/4/2025 at 7:27 PM, craiganderton said: nor do I like that Apple promised FireWire devices could always work with Thunderbolt adapters. But if the OS doesn't support FireWire, it doesn't matter if the hardware does. Yeah, that sucks. Even Firewire hard drives are barely usable with the Thunderbolt adapter. Luckily, every FW drive also had a USB 2 connector to the rescue… But on the other hand, old Macs still do work: I'm using a MacBook Pro 2008 (!) as my mobile recording studio. It runs El Capitan and Logic 10.3.3, and with a little help of a bunch of intrepid tinkerers who have hacked old M-Audio Firewire drivers, I can still use an M-Audio FW410 interface from 2003 (!) alongside an Alesis iO26 Firewire from 2008, the HX Stomp, and a Roland Octa-Capture that I only bought in 2023 to have a multi-channel interface compatible with Apple Silicon while it's still backward compatible as far as MacOS Tiger (!). In total, that makes 18 XLR inputs plus the 4 inputs on the Stomp, bundled in an Aggregate Device. It works, and it will continue to work until the MacBook breaks down. And even if it would break down, I also have a mid-2012 MBP that can run exactly the same setup. The only serious upgrade to both "oldies" was to replace the spinning hard drive bottleneck with a fast high quality SSD. But of course, then I'd do the editing and mixing on a MacBook Air M2 in Logic 11. So in fact, I'm actually surprised that I can still use a computer that is now a whopping 16 years old as a super compact mobile recording studio. For comparison, scroll back 16 years from 2008 and try to do anything with a computer from the early 1990s… (I used to work on a PowerBook 140 for a couple of years, and I still have an LC475 that might even still work if I'd replace the buffer battery again, so… been there done that, hehe…) ~~~ Now, back on topic and back to Helix, it's actually amazing that the Helix platform is still going that strong, even though it's now 10 years old, and no helix device is being left behind. Kudos to Line 6! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou-kash Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 12:18 PM, lou-kash said: I also have a mid-2012 MBP Speaking of my over 12 years old MacBook, it can run up to MacOS Catalina which means it is still compatible with all Helix devices and the latest HX Edit. That's not bad in my book. If you need backward compatibility on an "antique" computer, make sure to partition the drive and install any OS you may need for any particular task. For example, my 2012 MacBook can boot Mountain Lion, El Capitan, Sierra, High Sierra, Mojave and Catalina. Most of the time I'm on El Capitan, but occasionally an excursion to Catalina is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou-kash Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 On 1/3/2025 at 8:12 AM, jamtracks said: copying all the “resources” folder of the newer version app to the older app So… I just found time to test it on my ancient MacBook Pro 2008 running El Capitan, and this amazing trick works! Brilliant! Thank you again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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