Wow, I bought a used one from Sam Ash a few days ago, and have noticed a few weird things already. Considering I have no warranty, I think I'm going to return it. Also, I got off to a bad start when I tried to use the "updater". It asked me to login (I think L6 is the only company that makes you login in order to use their updater, fwiw). Then, it constantly gave me an "invalid login" message. I checked my account, and it was NOT "invalid"! I was able to install the update offline, but still, that was really an annoying waste of time, and reminded me of the frustration I've had with other L6 products. I was hoping they'd improved a lot since the Yamaha (I've always had good experiences with Yamaha gear) acquisition, but so far that doesn't seem to be the case.