bobwilken

what the heck are you even whining about ? do i feel better about what ? I feel great.. never better. you're the one who jumped in here all high and mighty with your thoughts... acting superior like you know something .. criticizing myself and others about our disdain for presets.. and didn't offer any help with .. or even address the problem that was portrayed in the original post and there is nothing wrong with your philosophical view about presets .... I totally agree with you you ....they suck , we all know it.. but that is neither the main point nor the spirit of this thread.. you're the one with the attitude ...I honestly couldn't care less what you think.. so do you have anymore unrelated irrelevant diatribe to offer .. to a thread that was already solved ... without your input .. and closed anyway ?

you obviously missed the entire point of the thread but thanks for the input. what does any of that long dissertation you gave ha to do with the malfunctioning board automatically shoving my my guitar into variax mode with an incompatible unusable preset. no one is denying that most presets in any boards are junk... just the fact that there are extremely crappy ....even for presets and you didn't ask for that stuff forty years ago because it wasn't there to be asked for. do you really think myself or anyone participating in this thread doesn't know how to plug a guitar into an amp and dial in a decent setting in a few minutes ? or plug a regular guitar into the HD 500 X and have a few Settings up and running in no time at all .. that's not the point .. I know it's an awesome piece of equipment , and when dialed in right it'll do everything but cook dinner. The problem is the synergy between my JTV-89f and the HD500x... and whether or not the problems I am having are restricted to my particular unit or others are sharing the same situation .... and about what to technically do about it in either case. The crappy presets would not matter so much if the unit didn't automatically shove you into one .. and the fact that the presets are unusually crappy.. as far as crappy presets go , with ridiculous volume variations. if you have any input on that situation I would like to hear it.. and when you made that mad dash for that $4000 gold top Les Paul and grabbed the first biggest and baddest amp that would turn on.... i I am willing to bet it didn't start right off sounding like $100 guitar into a $50 ramp which was my experience after $2000 investment and you are a little late to the party ...it has is all been worked out

thanks

yes , there are fantastic about that kind of thing I had to send a guitar back once ... they sent me a new guitar and a return shipping label for the old one... they let me keep using the one I had until I received the replacement.. you can't beat service like that. like I said it's just a pain in the butt to go through all that .. so I won't unless I'm absolutely sure I have too. as long as it's not broken .. or untreatable , I'm not going to go that route.

oh I understand that ... the way you yourself are having a good laugh at me but at the same time actually trying to help me out .. and I think it's both entertaining and helpful .. I welcome levity in a thread . and nothing beats witty sarcasm .. that stuff is great .. especially for other readers .. it keeps the thread alive and healthy i'm an old duffer, been there and done that ... i've been posting on forums for over 15 years now.. you should try some of the sports forums ... some people really want your address so they can hunt you down and put a beat down on you and I can assure you that I have not been offended in anyway ... and I do not have a glass jaw . but I can tell when something might start heading in the wrong direction. best to politely bow out before it takes over the thread ... it doesn't bother me personally at all... but it is an absolute waste of time for others that might be reading here looking for answers and to others that might actually want to constructively participate it is the welfare of others in the thread ..and the thread itself that concern me.. not my personal feelings. .. doesn't bother me a bit in that regard if all someone really has to say is just RTFM both their time and ours is better served somewhere else. but as you see I did not throw down the gauntlet .. I offered him an olive branch

yes ,the HD500x was shipped brand-new factory sealed from American Musical Supply and the JTV-89F what shipped brand spanking new from Sweetwater.com that's why I've been on these forums this month asking questions because I just invested almost 2 grand on this stuff .. and quite frankly very very disappointed. these units just don't seem to be playing very well together. .. something tells me these are not the two units that were being demonstrated in The dream rig Videos. LOL I have plenty of other Line 6 stuff and no complaints. I just want to make sure all the problems can be resolved without having to send this stuff back to the factory ... we all know what a hassle that is but everyone seems to be helping quite a bit and hopefully soon I'll get this all straightened out. hey, I obviously got the two clunkers of the the bunch .. oh well sh!t happens. The good news is that by being shipped all messed up it's really going to force me to learn this stuff inside and out .. not that I really wanted to... Gearbox , pod farm , pod xt live , and pod xt pro ... all all came with at least a couple dozen presets that I liked just fine. and as can be expected , most of the rest of the presets were just so so or flat out crappy. but that was just due to a matter of personal taste in opinion .. not because they just flat out did not function properly .... they may have sounded crappy .. but they all worked. so I will have to use the software and manuals to straighten it all out .. as long as this is possible ....a few months from now I'll look back and have a good laugh. i'm actually laughing right now ... albeit for the wrong reasons. mucho grass

now that was freaking hilarious ...... touché !! ROFL :lol:

well , three of the first 8 presets have zero volume .. 5 of them have a really bad hiss and hum from the stomp box settings and all 8 automatically shove your guitar into a variax mode that has nothing to do with that type of preset. I guess we have a different opinion of what a simple preset test drive is. if I was in a guitar shop checking foot gear ... I would've moved on to a different unit already. to each their own

actually I am 59 years old and had a Class A CDL license for 38 years before retiring two years ago and I also own various other line 6 floor and rack models that behaved much better right out of the box straight from the factory then this unit does . people ask questions on forums to get help from people who already know things and are willing to share their knowledge and save others some time and effort. and the manual can't tell you if your unit is broken .. or malfunctioning.. you can't ask the manual if it's unit is acting weird like yours is.. we come for human interaction .. not to be redirected to the iEncyclopedia Britannica.. usually we have been there already and found no solace. if your teenager going to get that beginner's drivers license you referred to asked you "hey dad, can you explain to me how this parallel parking thing works ?" would your response be "it's all right there in the drivers license manual son ..RTFM " "gosh pops ,I never woulda thought of that ,,,, thanks a lot for the help." one RTFM comment is enough ... and I accepted that one graciously. but returning with a 2nd references to RTFM in the same thread is not proper forum etiquette ... and I would greatly appreciate it if you would not come back with a third reference . thanks for your input.. and i look forward to any help you may offer in the future peace out ;)

that first link is pretty cool .. kinda reminds me of back in the day when I had one of those "how to keep your Volkswagen alive" manuals.. The guy was stop at the middle of rebuilding something and go twist up a blunt. but my main point is the fact that you should not have to RTFM just to test drive a preset . :D B)

i'm sorry , but you're mistaken .... the POD XT Pro is a bright red rack mount unit and does not have variax compatibility.. The cat five connection is only for a foot controller not for the variax. nor does the FBV short board foot controller that you run it with. I own them both and I can assure you that they are not a part of the variax ecosystem. perhaps you have it confused with the 3nd generation blackbox HD PRO and the newest 4th gen blackbox HD PRO X but the original 1st gen POD PRO and 2nd gen POD XT PRO are not variax units which is kind of weird when you consider that the POD XT LIVE floor unit does have a variax input.

I was wondering if the alternate tuning knob setting on the JTV-89F is supposed to stay lit up .. like the variax mode selector knob does... mine lights up momentarily when I move to a new selection , but the light goes right out about a half a second later. shouldn't it stay lit up like the variax knob does ?

not emotional at all .. sorry if I sounded that way... sarcastic and annoyed would be a better explanation... believe or not , I've been laughing the whole time during this thread and enjoying the conversations with everyone but.. radically inconsistent volume levels in all the presets ... ranging anywhere from super loud to totally inaudible.. God - awful sounding useless presets.. and unintelligent factory default interactive settings between the variax guitar and the HD500X . really makes you wonder what the heck they were thinking. I just think it's a shame because the power of these things are amazing ... but the way they're set up coming from factory is disgraceful. I have an ancient first-generation bright red POD XT PRO rack unit and FBV short board combo that absolutely walks all over this new stuff ... but sadly , no variax capabilities. anyway .. no worries .. because you and many others have set me straight about this "piece of kit" and .. as my oldest son is always telling me..." it's all good " B) believe or not I've been laughing the whole time during this right nothing is been want to go to.

thanks for the input Dave... yeah I guess it just boils down to what everybody's trying to make me understand... all the presets suck .. end of story .. so man up and deal with it. either tweak it into submission and obedience .... or trade it in for a different piece of kit ... but for now , I'm not willing to surrender

now that's the ticket !! now I'm gonna go in there and give this unit a proper beat down .. and well-deserved if you ask me.

yes... a very good game plan indeed .. but my point is that mags should be the default set up.. unless the particular preset was actually made for the Variax .. case in point .. when I step on a factory preset it overrides the mag setting i'm on and shifts into what ever physical variax setting are used lasti. now if I selected a heavy metal preset per se ... and it shifted the JTV into the "Lester" mode .. it would be great. but that's not what it does ... it shifs the JTV into what ever Variax mode I used last .. not the one that's appropriate for the preset I selected... "Son of plexi" gets re-routed into variax acoustic 12 string. unless I go in and correct it by tweaking and saving it. there's no way this was done on purpose ... it's absolute faulty code... which I see hasn't been updated since it's inception and like I said ... I understand that all this is tweakable , adjustable and customizable .. but all that should be optional ... not default . default should be just what is when I plug my Tele into it. anyways ... very unintuitive and user unfriendly it makes you work way harder than should be necessary. but the good news is that I know I can easily get by with 10 or 12 presets ... and live mainly in just 3 or 4 them. HA !! but I like how you have your set up going ... it'll probably take me a month or so but I'll get there ... now that everyone has been kind enough to show me the nature of the beast. manythanx

thank you very , very much....

so where is this global setting thing .. can I access it through the HD500X Edit software on my computer.. I have a really hard time reading that little screen on the unit itself

ok , so let me get this straight ... are you saying that I actually have to take the time to go in there and save every preset in this whole unit with mags as the source...or else use a regular guitar ? that's plain stupid - mags should be the default on the HD500X.. any presets involving the variax as the source should be optional not standard .. but instead you have to go in there and take the time to customize and redo everything ... this setup is totally back - asswards. seriously .. that is absolutely ignorant ... that function should be controlled from the guitar ... not the peddle board unless you specifically tweaked that preset to do that . tweaking and saving should be optional not mandatory just to be able to use the device. I pretty much keep the variax setting on the acoustic setting because that's basically all I use the variax for.. when i stomp into an overdriven metal preset ... the damn thing shouldn't automatically shift into an acoustic 12 string I gotta admit , so far the HD500X has me absolutely disappointed .. what the heck is the point of having 500 presets that don't at function properly out of the box ..let alone sounding like crap. for $500 it should at least be somewhat intuitively functional right out-of-the-box ... I know that presets all require tweaking. .. but I shouldn't have to re-save every preset in this machine just preview it. and re-saving every preset in the box just to be able use a variax guitar with it ..when they were supposed to be made for each other. "dream rig" my a$$ ....more like nightmare. i digress ..that angst is of course all toward Line 6 .. not you Tboneous.. i'm not trying to shoot the messenger ... and thanks alot for your help.. cheers -n- beers

I have my 89F and the HD500X connected with the Line 6 VDI cable when I have the 89F in mag mode and I switch to a different preset on the HD500x .. the variax guitar knob lights up and it shifts the 89F back into the variax mode. it will not stay on the mag setting when changing presets. any help would be very much appreciated .. this is very frustrating to have to remember to push the variax knob back in every time I switch a preset on the POD

so if I am interpreting this thread correctly ...turning down a full step to D Will generally function properly.. but might be whacked out on some alternate tunings and various settings.. especially susceptible are those involving 12 strings. I am also getting the impression that whatever mischief might be caused by turning down to D can be corrected with the editing software. have I got it right ?

actually , JTSC777 , that was extremely helpful..... thanks for taking the time to 'splain it to me !! cheers and beers

does plugging into the effects return of an amplifier bypass everything and just go straight into the power amp itself... if so , would running it straight from there into a mixer and then out to FRFR speakers ... give me what would amount to tubey sounding FRFR guitar signal ? and what routing what I use in the mixer to keep that sound pure ?

yeah , I'm now a retired 60-year-old man starting to get into this hobby of writing music and playing guitar and keyboards and LogiProX and JTV Variaxes and Pod500x and all that good stuff etc. and all this newfangled technology iis way beyond me ... for right now anyway.. so for right now I just gotta "calls 'em how I sees 'em " it looks just like a damn old gas pedal to me !! HA !! :lol:

I just looked around the Line6 website and noticed that even with all these issues and problems going on that neither the software nor the firmware seem to have been updated since last September ... so what's the deal , it seems the entire dream rig series has not gotten any love lately... all the efforts seem to be going into Amplifi , Apple-fi and Bluetooth. B)