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Cool, thank you :-) Can't find anyone showing them yet, but I'll keep checking...

Awesome, well done Line 6. Now, when will they arrive over the pond?

I know everyone's going crazy about the Archon, but this is my favourite of the new models so far, hardly touched a thing and it just feels and sounds fantastic. Really good job. Enjoying the Archon clean channel as well, will definitely be spending some time building some patches around these amps...

I use one as a backup to my Helix. The core tones are very good, effects are ok, drives not so good (although TS is decent), but for live use the 3 button approach is pretty limiting. I need more, so have ended up building it into a board with more effects and boost options, and it has worked out costing more to get what I need than i thought. In retrospect I'd have been better off with a GT100, saved a fortune, but for a backup rig would have been perfectly adequate. I've also found it to be less intuitive than the Helix to get tones I prefer, and I've spent a lot of time tweaking to get what I like - I still think it can sound a bit thin in a live mix, but I'm sure that is user error. Given the choice when I get in at night I almost always switch on the Helix, and i have found it hard to be inspired to spend the time with the Amplifire that it deserves. Hopefully this doesn't come across as overly negative - I've actually used the Atomic on a few gigs with a new band I joined, just to force myself to spend some time with it, and got compliments on the tone, and I'm growing to like it more - if you play in a classic rock band and just need a small handful of core sounds this will likely do a very good job.

Cool, glad it's useful :-)

http://line6.com/customtone/tone/2455676/ Might be a useful starting point...

Thank you all for the input. Unfortunately the deal fell through, but I think I'm sold on the idea of the L6 L3T, just need to keep looking for one at a decent price. Busy run of gigs between now and end of year, which would raise enough, so could be a nice Xmas present to myself :-)

Yes, I think so, I run the xlr output to the board at mic level, and the 1/4" out to the Alto at line, but I haven't checked that in a while! Thanks for the heads up, I'll definitely check that tonight!

Thanks - how come you changed from the CLRs? I need to look into the L6 link, bit of reading to do I think...

Yes, I agree, but I was trying to nail it to specifics as much as I could - are people finding they are running out of volume with some of these options? And, yes of course some of the more subjective stuff, but only in as much as "these things are all good" or "the L6 version really is miles behind". Just seeking some opinions as I've done the YouTube vids, and they all sound great, I can't try them in real life as no-one stocks them, and I would be interested in real world experiences in a gigging environment, where some of the nuances that people perhaps value in the home or studio environment are lost.

I have a chance to pick up an L3t for a good price. I use an Alto TS 212 for stage monitoring at the moment, so would expect this would be a step up in sound quality, as well as power. So my question is would I be missing anything compared to the likes of the CLR or Friedman? I'm pretty happy with my Alto, but feel like I'm sometimes pushing it pretty hard, so power is as important as sound quality. To be honest at stage volume, if the Line 6 is 99% of the quality of the others, but gives me versatility and headroom, that would be just fine! But if it is miles away sound wise then I'll give it a miss. Even though it's a good deal, they're still not exactly giving it away for free!!!

Bit trainspotterish I know, but I'm sure the guitar player with Barry Gibb last night on the "Later... with Jules Holland" show on BBC2 was Helixed up and sounding great. Check out the show opener and closer for best view - only really tuned in to catch Savages, this particular song is not my sort of music, but guitar sounded good. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07xs59r/later-with-jools-holland-series-49-episode-3 Don't know what's wrong with me - everytime I watch a live music show, I seem to be drawn to what gear the guitarist is using. Must remind myself not to be so sad!

I've found quite a few really good ones on there, and it sometimes helps to see how others have approached getting a particular tone, even if I just end up using one or two ideas for my own patches. I probably delete more than half after a few seconds, but doesn't mean it's crap, just not what I'm looking for, or maybe it just doesn't work with my guitar, speaker and fingers. From a community point of view I think it's good that people are prepared to share stuff (and the only cost is a few minutes of your time), and I would imagine if your new to this stuff it could be quite valuable to pick a few of the top rated stuff to get some ideas. Why don't you put some of your stuff up anyway? Tne routing stuff wouldn't matter if your core tone was great...

Great, thank you :-)

From your list above I'm assuming that means the L6 Ex-1 will also work?