Melissiah Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I read so much my head want to explode True or false: 1 To acheive the best sounds with hd500 and DT25 master should be between 55% and 60%? (Well it's loud as hell that's why I'm selling my mesa dual rectifier) 2 Channel volume doesnt affect sound so I should drop it like at 15% to be able to keep master between 55-60? What about mixer volume after the amp in chain? I saw many post saying to mute channel B even in single mono path config. But I have a sound drop doing so but I can compensate by raising channel volume. Is it good to mute channel B in single mono path config and why? many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissiah Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 Weird, I haven't deceided yet wich religion to choose between guitar/same and guitar/something else but for now I'm set to global guitar/aux and I'm experiencing volume drop when muting channel B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissiah Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 hum interesting, in front of all my patch I put the noise gate as saw in many readings I did and the reason to do this was to cancell stereo stuff. Anything to do with my previous concerns? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenSLR Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 If you mute channel B you will have to pan channel A to centre. Read the section here on Use Channel A Only for Single-Amp Patches http://www.foobazaar.com/podhd/toneGuide/quickGuide s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenSLR Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Another section on levelling patches and MASTER knob vs. VOLUME knob here: http://www.foobazaar.com/podhd/toneGuide/tipsAndPitfalls#leveling s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilhordas Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I use only 1 amp, input 1 in variax and 2 in guitar, mono effects, pan mixer in the center and b channel mixer muted. this correct? I really need to use the b channel muted? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilhordas Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 If you mute channel B you will have to pan channel A to centre. Read the section here on Use Channel A Only for Single-Amp Patches http://www.foobazaar.com/podhd/toneGuide/quickGuide s Posted Today, 02:57 AM I use only 1 amp, input 1 in variax and 2 in guitar, mono effects, pan mixer in the center and b channel mixer muted. this correct? I really need to use the b channel muted? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenSLR Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I use only 1 amp, input 1 in variax and 2 in guitar, mono effects, pan mixer in the center and b channel mixer muted. this correct? I really need to use the b channel muted? thanks If you use channel A (the top one) then input 1 is guitar unless you have a Variax guitar. You can test the different inputs for input 2 to see which one is most quiet. What I do is split the chain so two amps are visible and move the effects in front of channel A so it looks something like this: __ FX__FX__Amp A __ __ / Mixer \ ___________Amp B __ Amp B is muted, Amp A is centred in the mix. s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenSLR Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Both lines are stereo, if you use mono effects, you will still have Left and Right output but the mono signal will be split evenly into Left mono and Right mono instead of Left Stereo and Right Stereo. s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilhordas Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 If you use channel A (the top one) then input 1 is guitar unless you have a Variax guitar. You can test the different inputs for input 2 to see which one is most quiet. What I do is split the chain so two amps are visible and move the effects in front of channel A so it looks something like this: __ FX__FX__Amp A __ __ / Mixer \ ___________Amp B __ Amp B is muted, Amp A is centred in the mix. s Hi thanks, I use a variax , and I do not slipt the path, I just use te standard patch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilhordas Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Hi thanks, I use a variax , and I do not slipt the path, I just use te standard patch My question is , should I mute chanel B? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilhordas Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I find this all very complicated, the line 6 should simplify all this, because we just do not know what is the best way to use 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinDorr Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I read so much my head want to explode True or false: 2 Channel volume doesnt affect sound so I should drop it like at 15% to be able to keep master between 55-60? many thanks Channel volume on the HD affects sound (adds soft compression or even hard cipping distortion) if the Amp model's input or output exceeds -12dBFS. The same is probably also true for effects (my guess as I have not tested most, but the few I checked show that effect). My approach on how to dial in optimal Channel Volume ... A good and simple rule of thumb is to decrease Channel Volume as you increase Drive (reducing Channel volume by half drops preamp output level by about 12dB, have no data for poweramp mode but I'd guess its the same). If Drive is really low (0-15%) and you are using a clean Amp you probably can't get a full level output even when Channel Volume is 100% and you need another Gain stage (in a post Amp effect) to make up for the low Drive setting and limited Channel Volume correction. If you start from scratch you should get an output volume base line with no Amp selected and 0db gain mixer settings. If your guitar has a really low or hot signal you may want to raise or lower the guitar input signal level in your first effect before the amp and use that as baseline. If you can measure this (e.g.via USB and a DAW), keep the signal level below -12dBFS if you want to avoid soft compression or even hard clipping if you approach 0dBFS output level. Use ouput volume level baseline as a guide, add an Amp with some target Drive (dirt) setting and dial in a Channel Volume to match the original baseline volume to get an optimally high and noise free Amp output signal. Add post Amp effects w/o changing your baseline volume. Use a Volume pedal at end of your effects chain to dial in venue volume requirements and keep the DT's Master in the 1-2 o'clock as suggested earlier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilhordas Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 1) if your amp/fx chain is in default position (ie pre split) you shouldn't mute channel B 2) if instead your amp/fx chain is in path A and input2=same you should mute channel B, otherwise a dry guitar signal will come out together with the wet signal, but if input2 is set on something different from your guitar in this case don't worry at all about muting channel B my amp is in pre split ,but my efects is in some pre split and others in pos split Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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