ColonelForbin Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SP1L6H Mission Engineering Inc Helix Rack Expression Pedal w/Toe Switch - Black FinishExpression Pedal and Effects Controller for Line 6 Helix Rack Guitar Amp/FX Modeler, with Toe Switch to Toggle Rocker-pedal FX - Black 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2dconverterguy Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I wish that we could use the toe switch in the Mission Pedal to bypass the Wah in the Helix. :( I am waiting for auto-engage though... maybe a few months after launch seeya Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncockerill Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Word is Santa is bringing one of these down my chimney. And when I say Santa I mean wife, and chimney I mean FedEx. I'll report back after Xmas on how it works. I envision using this for all sorts of things, depending on the patch (delay feedback, univibe speeds, reverb mix, you name it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelForbin Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 I think it's specific to Helix Rack? Looks like the controller for Helix Rack has an input for "exp toe switch", and the rack also has that input- but the Helix floor unit does not. Expression pedal for Line 6 Helix Rack (only) Perfect for using Helix Rack live, making effects switching easier Pedal range is optimized for Line 6 Helix Rack's expression pedal input "It has a toe switch to engage/disengage your effect of choice for ease-of-use. Just connect the output of the SP1-L6H to your Helix Rack and assign the switches to the effects you want to toggle. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2dconverterguy Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 AH....ok...gives me an ideaAfter the warranty is expired on the Floor Helix, somebody could parallel the wiring on the Helix internal toe switch and bring it out to an external 1/4" jack... hmmm SeeyaJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabsbiz Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 AH....ok...gives me an idea After the warranty is expired on the Floor Helix, somebody could parallel the wiring on the Helix internal toe switch and bring it out to an external 1/4" jack... hmmm Seeya Joe I thought the helix floor version had a toe switch on the expression pedal which you could assign to switch from volume to Wah and back? The rack remote only has the toe switch input because it doesn't have the expression pedal on it. Unless of course you want two expression pedals with toe switches. That would be too much for my brain to bear while playing ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2dconverterguy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Hey Gabsbiz... That post was From December 2015 :D ... way before snapshots and auto-engage/ bypass.. I will backtrack for you as a courtesy... My original intent was to use an old wah pedal, modified to be an expression pedal with a 10k POT and an internal momentary switch, to be EXP 2 and control the wah while allowing 'ext bypass' like the HELIX Rack unit... Although the Helix Floor has the switch under the pedal for EXP1/EXP2... it doesn't have an external Jack for the "Exp Pedal Toe Switch" like the HELIX Rack... This would have meant that I would have had to modify the HELIX with an additional jack and wired to parallel the Internal toe-switch like this... Not wanting to modify my HELIX, and hoping that auto engage/ bypass might be in a future update, I waited it out and now I use a Spring-loaded Expression Pedal with auto-engage to bypass the wah.... A way better solution without any Helix mods required!! (Auto-engage also allows me to automatically turn on a delay and a Gain and Volume boost at the same the Pedal is moved past 5%.) I hope this helps Seeya Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozweepay Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Which spring loaded pedal are you using there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenblade Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I think a firmware update to Helix Floor may enable "exp3" out to be used as "exp toe switch" or "exp 3" out selectively. Wouldn't it be cool that we could have two exp pedal with individual toe switches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verne-Bunsen Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I think a firmware update to Helix Floor may enable "exp3" out to be used as "exp toe switch" or "exp 3" out selectively. Wouldn't it be cool that we could have two exp pedal with individual toe switches? With a little understanding of what Helix is looking for and what your switch is doing, this can already be done! http://line6.com/support/topic/26725-toe-switching-with-an-external-exp-pedal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenblade Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 With a little understanding of what Helix is looking for and what your switch is doing, this can already be done! http://line6.com/support/topic/26725-toe-switching-with-an-external-exp-pedal/ Thanks. That's good to know it is already possible at least with a workaround. Anyway without much tinkering, it would be good to connect any expression pedal with a toe switch and assign a role to the "exp 3" input as "exp toe switch" on the gui selectively. So the internal resistors will be activated for the inputs and we can be sure not to fry our expensive hardware by short-cutting the pedal inputs. Even on a cheap arduino we can assign these roles to control the inputs. So for a super hardware like helix, it must be more straightforward on the LCD display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I wish they would add calibration. I have a Mission spring pedal that works but goes past the 100% and then folds back down to around 50% at full toe. It worked fine when connected to the Axe FX II (after calibration). Since I can't calibrate the mission pedal in Helix, I guess I'm SOL on using it with auto engage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenblade Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I wish they would add calibration. I have a Mission spring pedal that works but goes past the 100% and then folds back down to around 50% at full toe. It worked fine when connected to the Axe FX II (after calibration). Since I can't calibrate the mission pedal in Helix, I guess I'm SOL on using it with auto engage. I believe I read somewhere in the forum that people fixed that problem by modding the wiring. Anyway I think you can change the pot with a 10k one in the pedal which helix expects, so the calibration problem probably goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verne-Bunsen Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 ...and we can be sure not to fry our expensive hardware by short-cutting the pedal inputs... Just for clarification, there is no risk of "frying" anything by doing this. You're just using a switch to produce two discrete EXP positions (0% and 100%) instead of using a potentiometer to provide the full range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Oh yea, I can modify the Mission pedal (I'm a 40+ year Electronics Tech by trade) but I still wish for a Helix calibration page along with a "curve" adjust for the heel to toe travel. Seeing is believing. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenblade Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Just for clarification, there is no risk of "frying" anything by doing this. You're just using a switch to produce two discrete EXP positions (0% and 100%) instead of using a potentiometer to provide the full range. Thanks. That's good to know. I wonder if there may be clever things to do with helix and an arduino or a teensy board (Using that exp ins for example). Oh yea, I can modify the Mission pedal (I'm a 40+ year Electronics Tech by trade) but I still wish for a Helix calibration page along with a "curve" adjust for the heel to toe travel. Seeing is believing. :) +1 If the firmware was open sourced (at least some parts of the code), I am sure some people would come here with some crazy creative projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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