SongofSouth Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Hi, I have my Eventide H9 connected to send/return 1 on Helix. If I choose to use "FXloop 1" I get this subtle phasey sound. When bypass Helix FXloop the sound gets solid and thick again. This hollow sound is present even if I bypass my external effect so It has something to do with Helix. This is prominent when I put the effect on a separate path "beside the orignal tone", as the Line6 folk decribe to do when using delays.. On the other hand, If I choose to use one SEND and one RETURN separatly, this phenomena do not occure. Why cant I just use the FXloop and save one step in the block? What is the difference between these two options, FXloop and the SEND/RETURN? Please help Best regards, Micke/Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug316 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Sounds like you've got a dry signal from both the Eventide and in the FX loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongofSouth Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 Sounds like you've got a dry signal from both the Eventide and in the FX loop. Eeeh ok, And what shall I do to get rid of it? Micke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Eeeh ok, And what shall I do to get rid of it? Micke. You either need to either have the mix parameter on the Helix's FX loop set to 100% or you need to have "kill dry" setting turned on in the H9. It depends on what you're trying to do with the H9 as to which way you want to do it. If you want it to be a serial effect, just set the mix to 100%. If you want to set up a parallel effect, you'd go with the dry kill option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongofSouth Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 Hi , Thanks for answering! Well I have tried both things, Kill Dry and when setting Helix MIX to 100% there is to much of H9 and the original guitartone is a little bit lost. When setting to, round 50% Mix it is more like it but the hollow/flanger sound is there until I just disengage/bypass the FXloop. But why is this not a problem when using separate Send/Return? What is the difference? Sorry..Micke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Well, the send block has the dry thru parameter, which is kind of like the mix parameter on the FX loop, but it's default is 0.0dB, meaning that you're always getting a 100% dry signal through the send block. I believe the equivalent setting on the FX loop is the mix at 50%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongofSouth Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 ok, But what shall I do? Am I the only one that has this problem? Micke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 So when you tried the dry kill on the h9, where did you have loop mix level set? Also, do you have the Helix's effect level set to instrument or line? What type of effect are you trying to use on the H9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongofSouth Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 i will check that out tomorrow.. to be continued.. Micke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WithALoudNoise Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I have this issue with my Ditto looper. The phasing and hollowness doepended on where I put the loop in the chain. I had to fiddle with placement to get the sound right. Not sure if this will help your situation... Will keep an eye on this thread though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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