spikey Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I noticed there was no Line-6 Link on the Firehawk 1500 and I half expected there to be. Anyway, question is, is this nice looking FRFR combo amp a poor choice and just over kill in using it with Helix? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelForbin Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I noticed there was no Line-6 Link on the Firehawk 1500 and I half expected there to be. Anyway, question is, is this nice looking FRFR combo amp a poor choice and just over kill in using it with Helix? I am liking it; but I am prone to overkill :) I mostly jam with the guys on Friday in our space, haven't gigged in a while. I have the L2 and L3 speakers too, I like where Line6 went with all the Stagesource gear, and liking this too. Haven't messed much with the wet/dry/wet option, or using the onboard modeling. The bluetooth works just fine, sounds good. The FH1500 is certainly a nice sounding - and loud - and heavy - stereo / FRFR amp. I used it with Helix for the third time in a jam session last night. Holds up just fine with a really loud four piece band in our rehearsal space - drums, bass, and another guitarist with a 40w Fender tweed. I sort of impulse bought it; it had come up on MF.com as an open box / scratch and dent, so I am leaning towards keeping it; still have some days to decide. Last night I used it in front of me, with the kick back / tilt back stand. I also had an L2t behind me on a speaker stand. L6link to the L2t, 1/4" stereo to the FH1500, and stereo XLR to the mixer / recording. It's really damn heavy, and I am thinking whatever rolling case they come up with for it will be a good investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmntshredder Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I'm really interested in the Firehawk 1500. From what I understand, it's stereo, has Bluetooth, is FRFR, and additionally has the onboard modeling as a backup. It also actually looks like an amp, which is a huge advantage to me. Other than the weight difference, what advantages do the Stagesource speakers have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 Im contemplating a what if, you ran the stereo outs of the Helix into the stereo monitor inputs of the Firehawk 1500, and then ran the "Buffered guitar out" of the Helix Rack unit into the guitar input of the FH-1500? Then you should be able to run stereo Heiix sounds into the FH-1500 as well as use the FH-1500 sounds "straight from" your guitar only, and then also use the center horn as well! Then if you wanted to, you could use a volume pedal and gradually lower or raise the volumes of either unit (or any effect) as you see fit via controller pedals. OMG the options here are mind blowing the more I consider it. What say you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelForbin Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Im contemplating a what if, you ran the stereo outs of the Helix into the stereo monitor inputs of the Firehawk 1500, and then ran the "Buffered guitar out" of the Helix Rack unit into the guitar input of the FH-1500? Then you should be able to run stereo Heiix sounds into the FH-1500 as well as use the FH-1500 sounds "straight from" your guitar only, and then also use the center horn as well! Then if you wanted to, you could use a volume pedal and gradually lower or raise the volumes of either unit (or any effect) as you see fit via controller pedals. OMG the options here are mind blowing the more I consider it. What say you? Yes! I dabbled in messing with the three cable send from Helix to FH1500. I tried these 3 options: Helix stereo to FH1500 monitor in, and.. 1.) I ran a dry guitar signal from my wireless (G70) to the FH1500 guitar in, and tried different presets on the FH in parallel with my Helix patches 2.) I ran a 1/4" from the main Helix 1/4" L/mono output to the FH1500 guitar in, and set the FH to a blank patch. 3.) I ran a 1/4" from the Helix fx send and placed the send just after the Helix amp/cab models, before any post FX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 And which one did you prefer? Also, the rack unit has a "Buffered dry guitar out" port, unlike the floor units... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelForbin Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 And which one did you prefer? Also, the rack unit has a "Buffered dry guitar out" port, unlike the floor units...I spent the most time on opt.2, because I didn't have to reprogram anything to make it work with different Helix patches. Taking the time to create a template would be a good place to start, to do a more specific signal- pre + amp and cab model dry (post amp model, before 'wet fx')) with that 1/4" center system send linked to a footswitch or volume / exp pedal. In terms of balancing the guitar in vs monitor in levels, I think you press the big volume knob to toggle between master volume, and the guitar in / patch level. The led ring colors change. For that extra 1/4" send, I hust wanted to add a touch of the center / mono / horn and center 12" speaker portion of the rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I'm really interested in the Firehawk 1500. From what I understand, it's stereo, has Bluetooth, is FRFR, and additionally has the onboard modeling as a backup. It also actually looks like an amp, which is a huge advantage to me. Other than the weight difference, what advantages do the Stagesource speakers have? If you had a pair of them, running a true stereo rig is easy,though in my experience this is a mess live. They're designed to be networked, so all you would need is one L6 Link cable from the Helix, and a second one between the L2's. No messing about with L and R outputs. They also have an accelerometer, so it knows of you're laying it on the floor as a monitor, and it will adjust the output mode accordingly to account for the bass coupling the often happens when you put a speaker on the floor. It's got an onboard mixer, so if you wanted to run a vocal and acoustic through it for a small gig, you've got that option. How much, if any of that stuff matters to you depends on how you're using them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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