Suggestion: A Line6 created "reference volume preset" CustomTone patch

[d0stenning]

A thought regarding CustomTone patches:

 

Last night I enjoyed just trying out and playing with my latest batch of CustomTone downloads. ( jamming to Soon and Waters Of March if you must know )

 

But one problem seems common - they all come in at different volume output levels - so i find myself reaching for Channel Volume a lot.

 

So ... is it time to have maybe a "reference" patch in there - to which anyone considering posting their new HELIX patch can compare how their patch sounds volume level wise ?

 

Maybe this "REFERENCE" patch can have three "Reference" volumes - for "Clean" when boost and "OD" are off, just "OD" is on and just "boost" is on...

 

So that we can audition and use patches easily - and know that the basic typical options will produce the same levels of output ?

 

Just an idea - maybe L6 could come up with this patch and make it a "sticky" on the forum ?

 

I principle it ought to be possible for some sort of normalisation feature be built into the HELIX too. So that for example - we set up a global reference patch - with three "Scenes" * L6 **will** eventually implement this of course methinks ) one scene for "clean" one for boost, one for "lead" or OD - maybe more. And then whenever we set up scenes for a new patch - the HELX FW provides a means of telling the HELIX that scene 1 is our "clean" , scene 2 is our "boost" scene 3 our "lead", scene 4 our "rhythm. And then with a single button click the HELIX normalises the levels and output for this new patch to match my initial "reference".

 

 

[regalpierot]

On a similar trend I hope L6 ad a simple boost block at some stage (similar to a TC Electronic Spark or so, mainly a clean boost with possibly a slight touch of OD if wanted). The TC Electronic G Sytem had a dedicated boost pedal for all presets and it was amazingly useful. What I'm typically doing now is just building a multi control with maybe boosting the gain and the channel volume on presets that I want to be able to hit a pedal during solos etc but I'd love a single effect that would handle that so I'd just have a standardized solution across the board.....literally and figuratively. 

[phil_m]

On a similar trend I hope L6 ad a simple boost block at some stage (similar to a TC Electronic Spark or so, mainly a clean boost with possibly a slight touch of OD if wanted). The TC Electronic G Sytem had a dedicated boost pedal for all presets and it was amazingly useful. What I'm typically doing now is just building a multi control with maybe boosting the gain and the channel volume on presets that I want to be able to hit a pedal during solos etc but I'd love a single effect that would handle that so I'd just have a standardized solution across the board.....literally and figuratively. 

 

Well, there is a gain block under the Volume/Pan section that simply raises the volume (up to +12dB, I think), but that won't give you additional overdrive. I personally find the Klon model works really well as clean boost. Set the drive to a really low value and adjust the level accordingly, and it's very responsive. I actually use this as an always-on effects for my effects only patches for use with my tube amp. I just love way it reacts.

[d0stenning]

Thinking about this made me come up  with ( big groan from everyone... ) yet another feature request: 

 

 

http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Auto-volume-normalisation-via-global-reference-patch-scenes/823342-23508

 

Auto volume normalisation via global reference patch & scenes

 

Auto volume normalisation via global reference patch using (upcoming feature?) scenes: 

In principle it ought to be possible for some sort of volume normalisation feature be built into the HELIX firmware so that for example - give us via firmware the means to set up a global REFERENCE patch - with three or four "Scenes". 

one scene the user specifies as "clean", another for boost, one for "lead" or OD - maybe more. The user then ensures that the volume levels for each of these "reference scenes" within this "reference patch" are the volume levels they desire for their typical needs ( in a mix, gigging etc ) 

Then whenever we create a new patch - we also set up scenes for the new patch - and the HELX provides a means for us to tell the HELIX that scene 1 is our "clean" , scene 2 is our "boost" scene 3 our "lead", scene 4 our "rhythm etc . And then with a single button click the HELIX normalises the levels and output for this new patch to match my initial "reference". 

So that for the new patch I am now ensured that for the common usages - clean, OD, boost rhythm etc - my new patch can be interchanged with any other without any need to tweak final output levels etc.

 

http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Auto-volume-normalisation-via-global-reference-patch-scenes/823342-23508

[DunedinDragon]

I don't see what the big deal is here.  Even were you to do this you'd still need an idea of what level you want your patches to be normalized at.  To me it's just easier to set my master volume where I want it going through my normal FRFR speaker as I'm building or tweaking my presets and check them with a sound meter.  For my purposes I target 80db at half master volume for normal output and around 83db for lead output.  This level works in most cases with my band but if, during sound check, I find I need more or less I just turn the master volume level up or down and it affects all of my presets equally.

 

I've been doing this on various modelers for years and it hasn't failed me yet.