sanesp Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Here Joe is playing a Jim Kelley Reverb: I own one of these and haven't been able to replicate it on the Helix (yet). That video is a perfect demonstration of what I'm after. So far I've gotten the closest using the "Litigator" model running into the "Mesa EXT" cab (it has an EVM12L like the real amp). I'm particularly struggling to get that note bloom... Any suggestions? Should I try a different amp model, EQ, or maybe an IR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingsCool Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 In looking at the video, 4 points struck me in setting up the sound... 1. Sound is very dependent on the guitar volume (and I bet tone) knobs 2. He talks a lot about which pickup he's using and the amp eq knob setup 3. Single 12" speaker mic'd at the very edge (why can't we have that L6????) 4. End comments are very important.... "I've never played through a single 12", is it ported? Yes... Ahhh, that bottom end is killer" loosely quoted IOW, some EQ on the back end to give it some bottom end while retaining the tightness.... Maybe look around for some IR's if you can't quite get there with the L6 cabs? (I prefer to use L6 cabs 'cause I don't need more complications, but I can see the need sometimes for an IR) I'm imagining you noticed all that, too, but I figured I'd put it out there... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanesp Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 In looking at the video, 4 points struck me in setting up the sound... 1. Sound is very dependent on the guitar volume (and I bet tone) knobs 2. He talks a lot about which pickup he's using and the amp eq knob setup 3. Single 12" speaker mic'd at the very edge (why can't we have that L6????) 4. End comments are very important.... "I've never played through a single 12", is it ported? Yes... Ahhh, that bottom end is killer" loosely quoted IOW, some EQ on the back end to give it some bottom end while retaining the tightness.... Maybe look around for some IR's if you can't quite get there with the L6 cabs? (I prefer to use L6 cabs 'cause I don't need more complications, but I can see the need sometimes for an IR) I'm imagining you noticed all that, too, but I figured I'd put it out there... Thanks for the tips. I have tried running the bass higher and that definitely helped. I should mention that in real life it doesn't seem as tight as in that video, but really fat sounding depending on pick attack. I can't quite get that with the litigator. I'm thinking of maybe blending it with the Bassman model next time I get the chance to tweak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 You didn't mentioning what you are monitoring your Helix through and the guitar you are using. Joe is also sitting nearly right in front of the amp. You may have to have a wedge pointed at you to get some of that same reaction in your guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanesp Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 bump, still trying to figure this one out. unfortunately my Kelley is being serviced atm so I have nothing to compare it to aside from that video. the litigator model almost sounds "weaker" if that makes sense, it's much thinner and less aggressive than a Kelley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsdenj Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I suspect it also has a lot to do with that guitar, and how loud the amp is in the room. We often build our patches at pretty low volume levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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