gib_ber Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just bought myself a second hand M13 and set it up to control my Framus Dragon through midi. Everything works as it should, but there is a noticeable ~500ms delay before the amp changes it channel when selecting a scene on M13. Has there been any kind of comment from Line6 how to fix this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Don't daisy your devices. Use a star configuration with a MIDI interface device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gib_ber Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 Thanks for the quick reply. So the only way to achieve simultaneous scene changes and amp channel changes is to get an external midi controller that sends both their own midi commands. :/ Does the midi channel selection in anyway affect the possible delay. At the moment I've got both set on Omni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Not usually. It's when devices are connected like a string of beads that delays get stacked up. With a "star configuration", all delays and arrival times are pretty much equal. It's a general rule for MIDI in particular and data communications in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gib_ber Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 Is there anything in the M13 unit that could affect when the midi program command is sent out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftybob Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Hello: I recently purchased the M13 and a VooDoo Lab Control Switcher so I can change the channel on my DSL40 when switching scenes in latch mode and I'm also experiencing latency when changing channels. I don't have any other MIDI devices so there isn't anything to setup a "star" configuration for - it's just one midi cable from the M13 to the Control Switcher. From the little I can find about this online I'm not seeing M9 users having the same problem. I know the Control Switcher is not the problem as when I manually press the button controlling the channel it switches instantly. Is there any solution for this as this is likely a deal breaker for me as I can't deal with the delay in a live situation. I have 2 weeks to return the M13 and I'd rather not do that if this can be resolved. I'm now looking at the Boss GT-100 as that has a built in relay for amp control which is maybe a better way to go so I can bypass MIDI all together. I've read where people say the M13 is not a MIDI controller and I get that. But I'm not looking to do complicated MIDI programming with it and if it wasn't meant to control anything why have a MIDI out? Any help would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 "... why have a MIDI out?"--- to upload and download things like patches or Firmware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftybob Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 ...patches and firmware, sure and makes sense. However, from the manual: The M13 will send and receive MIDI CC and Program Change messages on any MIDI Channel from 1 thru 16 or Omni... If it's going to send MIDI messages, as the manual states, I think it's reasonable to expect that with today's technology, it would be rather instant. Additionally, from what I can tell, aside from your response (which I do appreciate by the way), Line 6 has been rather quiet on the subject - no updates for the M13 since Jan 2011, etc. I suspect the M Series is nearing end of life and since there hasn't been an update for over 6 1/2 years I'm not expecting resolution for this issue. For that reason I think it's in my best interest as a consumer to look at competing products - which is a shame as I really, really like the M13, the sounds, the simplicity, etc., but the latency is a real pain to deal with in a live situation. Thank you for your response. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Yes, MIDI MCC. Some use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissrawk Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Anyone know how to setup a "star configuration" with Line 6 m13 and amp? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissrawk Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I have the same problem. Anyone know if a midi solution thru box fix the amp channel latency? M13 to thru box to control switcher. My setup(4 cable method): Line 6 m13 Mesa boogie dual rectifier Voodoo lab control switcher Sennheiser hd400 hum eliminator (send) Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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