muelrich Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Any suggestions (or files) to create this endless sustain lead sound by Robert Fripp (70ths King Crimson)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 E-Bow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 5/14/2018 at 2:56 PM, brue58ski said: E-Bow TC Electronics is making something called the Aeon now that is supposed to be a next generation version of the Ebow. https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categories/Tcelectronic/Guitar/Stompboxes/AEON/p/P0DAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 You will need a guitar with good sustain. Les Paul or anything else with set neck (or neck through even better), mahogany body, humbuckers etc. Fripp used a Tokai LP copy in those days as far as I know. Use the neck humbucker with tone way down. On the HELIX side I use a simple setup like this: Input > Triangle Fuzz [Sustain: 8.3, Tone 0.7, Level 8.1] > Jazz Rivet [Drive 2.8, Bass 5.6, Mid 2.7, Treble 4.7, Pres 5.0, Ch Vol 8.5, Master 10, Bright off]. That’s the naked tone. Then add different LONG delays like Transistor Tape, Reverse etc. to taste (Fripp used two Revox tape machines for delay and looping). Thats half the battle already. Of course endless sustain using an E-Bow is helpful, but not essential if your guitar itself provides enough for semi-long solo lines. For my fripp-alike sounds I use a Fernandes Ravelle Elite with a Sustainer in the neck-humbucker, works like an E-Bow but you have the right hand free. Cheers Opti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just watch this: Frippertronics Then set up a similar effects chain in Helix, with long delays. Here's another useful article. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muelrich Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiveways Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Triangle Muff is key. Then run into the volume pedal which is as important considering swells factors so hugely into fripps playing. After that I add a slash of tape echo ambiance (as he had a walkin's copycat for some ambiance in KC but I have been using either cosmos echo or the Binson in the legacy effects). After that I run the vintage delay on 8 seconds, a reverse delay on 4 seconds and a second vintage delay on 8 seconds. I use the Hiwatt instead of the Jazz Chorus because I like that period of Fripps tone better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiveways Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 So the guitar rig is Muff - Farfisa Volume - Wah - copycat - Hiwatt. The rest is on the melotron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Happy to have heard several King Crimson concerts in their early days (Crimson King through Larks Tongue tours). Bent my mind in several directions. I still go to see Fripp or Crimson when they are on tour and in my area. You should never pass up the chance.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 23 hours ago, fiveways said: Triangle Muff is key. Then run into the volume pedal which is as important considering swells factors so hugely into fripps playing. After that I add a slash of tape echo ambiance (as he had a walkin's copycat for some ambiance in KC but I have been using either cosmos echo or the Binson in the legacy effects). After that I run the vintage delay on 8 seconds, a reverse delay on 4 seconds and a second vintage delay on 8 seconds. I use the Hiwatt instead of the Jazz Chorus because I like that period of Fripps tone better. Yeah I forgot the volume pedal. It’s essential. Interesting approach by fiveways using it after the Triangle. Will try that out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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