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Helix Kinky Comp vs Xotic SP compressor settings


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Hi everyone,

 

I did a bit of searching on this, but I couldn't find an answer. From what I understand, the Kinky Comp is based on the Xotic SP compressor. However, the controls for the Helix model are completely different than that of the SP compressor. Has anyone ever answered how the controls match up on the model compared to the real-life version? 

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On 10/30/2018 at 11:49 AM, markus506 said:

Hi everyone,

 

I did a bit of searching on this, but I couldn't find an answer. From what I understand, the Kinky Comp is based on the Xotic SP compressor. However, the controls for the Helix model are completely different than that of the SP compressor. Has anyone ever answered how the controls match up on the model compared to the real-life version? 

 

The Helix model it is not a one to one emulation of the controls on the Xotic. The attack and release controls are presets via internal DIP switches on the Xotic whereas they are variable parameters on the Helix. Don't know what values Xotic uses for these. I would find something that works for you for these two settings. The Xotic also has DIP switches for an input pad and although it is not really the same thing the Helix has one of those in global settings so maybe they left it out. Same thing goes for the DIP switch hi-cut on the Xotic; can be found elsewhere on the Helix.  Use the new gain reduction meters on the Helix to get the sensitivity dialed in right. Rough mapping of the respective controls is below.  I did a general writeup on compression(before this pedal was added) you might or might not find helpful in getting ideas for settings.

 

Xotic SP                                                    Helix

Volume                                                       Level (otherwise known as makeup gain)

Blend                                                           Mix

Hi-Mid-Lo                                                   Sensitivity

Internal DIP switches(Attack)           Attack

Internal DIP switches(Release)         Release

Internal DIP switches(Input Pad)     Guess you could use the Input pad in Helix's global settings but not to exactly the same result

Internal DIP switches(Hi-Cut)            Hi-Cut maybe use the parametric EQ's Hi-cut or a Hi/Low cut block before or after compressor

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, HonestOpinion said:

Internal DIP switches(Input Pad)     Guess you could use the Input pad in Helix's global settings but not to exactly the same result

 

I just want to add to this.... 

 

I always run a simple "gain block' before the compressor which allows me to fine tune the signal level just before it hits the compressor. It's acts as a PAD (or boost) but is much more variable. My reasoning is that I find the stomp compressors on the Helix really aggressive (real models are as well) and squish notes much more than I like. Sure the blend is there, but that doesn't change the underlying effect. 

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