vorphallack Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 What's your opinion on the HX Effects in the loop? I Have and ENGL Blackmore amp and when i use the HX my tone sounds very digital and my amp itself has a very warm tone which i love, my G Major 2 doesn't do that, HX sucks my tone and make it sound like a modeller, that's why i choose the HX bc i hate amp simulators and i only wanted the midi, effects, and Relay switching but the tone sucking issue makes me wanna send it back and buy another G Major 2 for effects.... please let me know if I'm missing something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrahi Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 14 hours ago, vorphallack said: What's your opinion on the HX Effects in the loop? I Have and ENGL Blackmore amp and when i use the HX my tone sounds very digital and my amp itself has a very warm tone which i love, my G Major 2 doesn't do that, HX sucks my tone and make it sound like a modeller, that's why i choose the HX bc i hate amp simulators and i only wanted the midi, effects, and Relay switching but the tone sucking issue makes me wanna send it back and buy another G Major 2 for effects.... please let me know if I'm missing something It was designed to be used in a loop. So my opinion is it's awesome. Without more information, I can't really diagnose what your problem is. It definitely shouldn't "suck" your tone. Is it possible when you were unplugging your G Major 2, and intending to plug in your HX Effects, you accidentally plugged in a quantum singularity instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codamedia Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I would try the HX Effect directly in front of the amp and see if the problem exists there. If it's fine, at least you have narrowed it down to a loop problem between the HX and the Amp, not the unit itself. Are you sure you have all the in/out levels selected properly, and have have adjusted them as required? Each in/out/loop as a selector for "instrument or line"... plus they have send levels and return levels. Sometimes it takes a little effort to get it working optimally with your amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonandtice Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, codamedia said: I would try the HX Effect directly in front of the amp and see if the problem exists there. If it's fine, at least you have narrowed it down to a loop problem between the HX and the Amp, not the unit itself. Are you sure you have all the in/out levels selected properly, and have have adjusted them as required? Each in/out/loop as a selector for "instrument or line"... plus they have send levels and return levels. Sometimes it takes a little effort to get it working optimally with your amp. ^ this. Check this. When instrument and line level mismatches happen in a loop, the volume differences tend to cancel out but tone seems to suffer since your effects blocks won't always be getting the signal level they are expecting (in my experience). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 It sounds like you're probably hearing comb filtering or phasing. The Blackmore has a knob beside its effects loops jack labeled "Dry Effect Balance". You'll want to make sure that's turned all the way to the right so the the loop is effectively a serial loop. If you have any dry signal mixed, the dry signal going through the HX Effects and through the amp will be out of phase with each and everything will sound bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorphallack Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 I Will do what Phil told me since i usually set the Sry balance either half way or just a quarter not on max, i connected the HX on 4 cm like the diagram in the manual is there another way to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorphallack Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 13 hours ago, jonandtice said: ^ this. Check this. When instrument and line level mismatches happen in a loop, the volume differences tend to cancel out but tone seems to suffer since your effects blocks won't always be getting the signal level they are expecting (in my experience). yeah all of them are mix a 100 and send/return, same volume, IN/OUT set to Instrument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorphallack Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 14 hours ago, Kilrahi said: It was designed to be used in a loop. So my opinion is it's awesome. Without more information, I can't really diagnose what your problem is. It definitely shouldn't "suck" your tone. Is it possible when you were unplugging your G Major 2, and intending to plug in your HX Effects, you accidentally plugged in a quantum singularity instead? the G major is connected as follow : (IN Gmajor Send/Blackmore) ( Out Gmajor - Return/Blackmore) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonandtice Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Does the HX Effects have an Input Pad setting in the Global Settings? If it does, turn it off and see if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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