HX Stomp FX Loop R Issue

[jose_romo]

Hi. I'm trying a new configuration for my pedalboard using the Send / Return of the HX Stomp in order to have two different pedal connected and activated via FX Loop Blocks. I use the Send output and split it (i try a Radial ABY and a Parallel output of one of the pedals) into two pedals, then I connect the output of one pedal in the Left Return and the other pedal's output into the Right Return. I configured the global setting in order to have an Instrument output in to the Left and Right Return. Then I put one Right block in to the main  (A) path of the HX Stomp. When I activated the block for FX LOOP L I had no problem, the pedal works well and I can turn it on and off using HX button where I assigned the FX LOOP L. Then I did exactly the same with the FX LOOP R and when activated it completely  shut down the signal. I thought it was the pedal, then i try it directly into the amp and had no problem, I switch all the patching cables and still not working, I swap the Return cables connecting the correctly tested pedal into FX LOOP R and the issue pedal into the FX LOOP L, same problem, FX LOOP R kills the signal when connected. Then I thought that using a TRS cable in the send jack thinking that could mechanically activate one switch so that the Returns could work like stereo, it didn't work. Any idea on what I may be doing wrong?

[Kilrahi]

10 hours ago, jose_romo said:

Hi. I'm trying a new configuration for my pedalboard using the Send / Return of the HX Stomp in order to have two different pedal connected and activated via FX Loop Blocks. I use the Send output and split it (i try a Radial ABY and a Parallel output of one of the pedals) into two pedals, then I connect the output of one pedal in the Left Return and the other pedal's output into the Right Return. I configured the global setting in order to have an Instrument output in to the Left and Right Return. Then I put one Right block in to the main  (A) path of the HX Stomp. When I activated the block for FX LOOP L I had no problem, the pedal works well and I can turn it on and off using HX button where I assigned the FX LOOP L. Then I did exactly the same with the FX LOOP R and when activated it completely  shut down the signal. I thought it was the pedal, then i try it directly into the amp and had no problem, I switch all the patching cables and still not working, I swap the Return cables connecting the correctly tested pedal into FX LOOP R and the issue pedal into the FX LOOP L, same problem, FX LOOP R kills the signal when connected. Then I thought that using a TRS cable in the send jack thinking that could mechanically activate one switch so that the Returns could work like stereo, it didn't work. Any idea on what I may be doing wrong?

 

In all of the instances were you using an ABY and/or a parallel output of one of the pedals?  

 

Because that might be the problem right there. You use a TRS to TS Y Cable only. One pedal gets connected to the tip, another to the sleeve. Then one pedal is connected to one return, and the other to the other. Nothing more complex to do then that. 

[jose_romo]

25 minutes ago, Kilrahi said:

 

In all of the instances were you using an ABY and/or a parallel output of one of the pedals?  

 

Because that might be the problem right there. You use a TRS to TS Y Cable only. One pedal gets connected to the tip, another to the sleeve. Then one pedal is connected to one return, and the other to the other. Nothing more complex to do then that. 

Thanks Kilrahi.

 

Nop, actually I simply connected any of the pedals using a TS cable in the send HX Stomp, then the pedal output to the Right HX Stomp Return and I kills the signal. Do the same in the Left Return and I have no problem.

 

[phil_m]

32 minutes ago, jose_romo said:

Thanks Kilrahi.

 

Nop, actually I simply connected any of the pedals using a TS cable in the send HX Stomp, then the pedal output to the Right HX Stomp Return and I kills the signal. Do the same in the Left Return and I have no problem.

 

 

You need to use a TRS connector into the FX send jack otherwise, the FX Loop R block won't receive a signal.

[jose_romo]

 

19 minutes ago, phil_m said:

 

You need to use a TRS connector into the FX send jack otherwise, the FX Loop R block won't receive a signal.

Thanks Phil_m.

So will test to conect a TRS to the FX send into one of the pedals and use a splitter cable from to 2 TR connectors in order to connect both pedals in a separated Return plug. Hope that works, I'll let you know.

[Kilrahi]

4 hours ago, jose_romo said:

 

Thanks Phil_m.

So will test to conect a TRS to the FX send into one of the pedals and use a splitter cable from to 2 TR connectors in order to connect both pedals in a separated Return plug. Hope that works, I'll let you know.

 

No don't do that. That's not quite what we're saying. 

 

The TRS cable IS the splitter cable. See the link below. The cable splits the signal for you and each output goes into the input of each separate pedal, which then each pedals output is connected by another TS cable to the FX return. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Tisino-Stereo-Y-Splitter-Return-Insert/dp/B07K59P692/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=trs+to+TS+y&qid=1560372530&s=gateway&sr=8-3

 

Also, watch the official Line 6 video below starting at 2:56

 

 

[dirtychinchilla]

On 6/12/2019 at 9:49 PM, Kilrahi said:

 

No don't do that. That's not quite what we're saying. 

 

The TRS cable IS the splitter cable. See the link below. The cable splits the signal for you and each output goes into the input of each separate pedal, which then each pedals output is connected by another TS cable to the FX return. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Tisino-Stereo-Y-Splitter-Return-Insert/dp/B07K59P692/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=trs+to+TS+y&qid=1560372530&s=gateway&sr=8-3

 

Also, watch the official Line 6 video below starting at 2:56

 

 

 

Morning guys. Sorry to resurrect a post, but this seemed to be closest to the problem I'm experiencing. Hoping you can help!

 

 

So I have my stomp connected with the L mono output into my amp's return. I then have the amp send connected to the L mono return.

 

I'm trying to add a fuzz pedal, and I don't mind if it's integrated into the Stomp or not. Not may even be preferable just to keep my options open with the Stomp.

 

I've tried a number of different combos and I can't get this to work. How do I actually achieve it? Do I need TRS cables for example? I did try putting my pedal output straight into my fuzz pedal but that also didn't work for some reason...maybe the output was too high.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Schmalle]

3 hours ago, dirtychinchilla said:

 

Morning guys. Sorry to resurrect a post, but this seemed to be closest to the problem I'm experiencing. Hoping you can help!

 

 

So I have my stomp connected with the L mono output into my amp's return. I then have the amp send connected to the L mono return.

 

I'm trying to add a fuzz pedal, and I don't mind if it's integrated into the Stomp or not. Not may even be preferable just to keep my options open with the Stomp.

 

I've tried a number of different combos and I can't get this to work. How do I actually achieve it? Do I need TRS cables for example? I did try putting my pedal output straight into my fuzz pedal but that also didn't work for some reason...maybe the output was too high.

 

Thanks in advance.

There is some information missing: Do you use 4CM? It seems so since you've connected amp send to HX L return What is your guitar connected to? What is HX send connected to?

If you use 4CM then one of the two loops is already occupied. To use the second (FX loop R) you'll need a TRS split cable.

[dirtychinchilla]

9 hours ago, Schmalle said:

There is some information missing: Do you use 4CM? It seems so since you've connected amp send to HX L return What is your guitar connected to? What is HX send connected to?

If you use 4CM then one of the two loops is already occupied. To use the second (FX loop R) you'll need a TRS split cable.

 

Thanks for getting back to me. No, I don't use a 4CM. My guitar is plugged into the L Mono Input. The send isn't connected to anything at the moment.

 

So, do I need to get a TRS split cable and send one side to my amp and one to the pedal I want to include in the loop? Then have one to return L and one return R?

[Schmalle]

Why do you connect amp send to HX return L if you don't use the amp's preamp?

55 minutes ago, dirtychinchilla said:

So, do I need to get a TRS split cable and send one side to my amp and one to the pedal I want to include in the loop? Then have one to return L and one return R?

Why use HX send to amp? You stated it was HX output to amp return.

[pthung]

I'm having a similar issue. Due to scarce pedalboard-real estate I changed the return of my external pedal from send/return L to send/return R.

Not using 4CM and set-up worked fine with send/return L.

Changed the block to FX Loop Right and...no signal.

Does this mean that R is deactivated if nothing's connected to L (mono) ?

[phil_m]

3 hours ago, pthung said:

I'm having a similar issue. Due to scarce pedalboard-real estate I changed the return of my external pedal from send/return L to send/return R.

Not using 4CM and set-up worked fine with send/return L.

Changed the block to FX Loop Right and...no signal.

Does this mean that R is deactivated if nothing's connected to L (mono) ?

No the sends and returns will all work independently of each other. Do you have a TRS to dual mono breakout plugged into the Stomp’s send jack?

[pthung]

Thanks Phil, that"s probably it. There's only one pedal in my ext chain so I used a mono to mono jack there. Same as pedal out to send/return R.

Will try your idea (though I kinda solved it by flipping the pedal so I can use send/return L again)

[phil_m]

49 minutes ago, pthung said:

Thanks Phil, that"s probably it. There's only one pedal in my ext chain so I used a mono to mono jack there. Same as pedal out to send/return R.

Will try your idea (though I kinda solved it by flipping the pedal so I can use send/return L again)

If you have a regular TS cable plugged into the effects send, the right side won’t receive any audio, so, yeah, that’s the issue. Or more accurately, I guess, is that there’s no connection being made to right send, so the Send R block in your preset will mute the signal when turned on.