tcamuso Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Is there any way to have an exclusive A or B? I can assign a foot switch to the A/B split and get 100% B, but when I toggle the foot switch to bypass the split, I get B merged with A, when what I want is 100% A. So, I want an A/B split that gives me 100% A and 0% B, or 0% A and 100% B. In truthtable terms: Footswitch State : OFF ON Output from split A/B : A only B only No merge 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaschaFranck Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 You don't need to control the bypass status of the switch (I really wish it was that easy, would allow for some more trickery, too) but the value of the slider. Take a look: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themetallikid Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Yes, I do this with my multi amp presets when using snapshots for clean/dirty tones. I just have the slider for a/b % set to 100% either direction and attached for that snapshot. I'm sure you can attach a min/max setting as well so that they are a100 or b100. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcamuso Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, SaschaFranck said: You don't need to control the bypass status of the switch (I really wish it was that easy, would allow for some more trickery, too) but the value of the slider. Take a look: No joy. I can get A-only, but when I flip the switch, I still get an A/B merge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcamuso Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, themetallikid said: Yes, I do this with my multi amp presets when using snapshots for clean/dirty tones. I just have the slider for a/b % set to 100% either direction and attached for that snapshot. I'm sure you can attach a min/max setting as well so that they are a100 or b100. Doesn't work for me. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I cannot select an exclusive A path or exclusive B path with one switch. If the footswitch makes one exclusive, flipping the switch ALWAYS gives me a merge of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Here's a very basic example (preset attached). Distortion on A, Delay on B, no merge. A_B Split.hlx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaschaFranck Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 When you use "Route to" as a target, the control assigns automatically come up as in the picture I posted. So it's not *that* much of an effort (yet, doing it via bypass straight on the split would be great as I could then exclude it from snapshot bypass - which isn't possible this way). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcamuso Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, rd2rk said: Here's a very basic example (preset attached). Distortion on A, Delay on B, no merge. A_B Split.hlx 10.34 kB · 1 download Hi, rd2k. I tried to import this, but the helix editor complained saying ... I'm using V 2.92. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaschaFranck Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Guess you'd have to update your Helix - as I'm sure that's what rd2rk already did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcamuso Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 OK, gang, I finally got it to work using saschafrank's suggestion to route the A/B split to a switch and set the max/min. I did this in the Helix Editor, and it took a few cycles of the assigned footswitch before it actually did anything, but now it's working. I don't know why the switch did not immediately respond to the configuration in the Helix Editor, but it seems to be working as expected now.\ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcamuso Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, SaschaFranck said: Guess you'd have to update your Helix - as I'm sure that's what rd2rk already did. Being intimately familiar with software updates, I'm gonna wait a bit before I commit. ;) I will be looking forward to seeing what those new models are in that patch, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Yes, I'm on 3.0. Why would anyone Not be? ;-) In the meantime, try this one, it uses a legacy didtortion. A_B Split.hlx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaschaFranck Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, tcamuso said: I will be looking forward to seeing what those new models are in that patch, though! My guess would be that the patch would be not compatible even if it was empty. From all I know, there's never been downwards compatibility of Helix patches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Never had backwards compatibility problems as long as it's not a missing model issue, next time you reboot it just optimizes for the newer FW. Anyhow, the preset is just what Sascha suggested, which you now have working. All good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaschaFranck Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 28 minutes ago, rd2rk said: Never had backwards compatibility problems as long as it's not a missing model issue Oh really? So in case I create a patch with 3.0 using just older models, that patch would be compatible with older FW versions? I thought that was different and the patch was kinda "tagged", so it'd only load in FW versions as new or newer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, SaschaFranck said: Oh really? So in case I create a patch with 3.0 using just older models, that patch would be compatible with older FW versions? I thought that was different and the patch was kinda "tagged", so it'd only load in FW versions as new or newer. I'm basing that on having restored setlists created with previous versions after an update. They always worked fine, then rebuilt after a reboot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaschaFranck Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, rd2rk said: I'm basing that on having restored setlists created with previous versions after an update. They always worked fine, then rebuilt after a reboot. Sure, that's the normal way. But I was thinking whether it'd work the other way around. As in patches (or setlists) created in, say, FW3.x and then loading them in FW2.x. I thought that way it wouldn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Oh, I get ya. I've never had a reason to go backwards on versions, so I've never tried that. Sounds like a question for phil_m...... OR - OP? Did my second preset work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcamuso Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 32 minutes ago, rd2rk said: OR - OP? Did my second preset work? Nope. Just upgraded to 3.0, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, tcamuso said: Nope. Just upgraded to 3.0, too. No, it didn't work in 2.92, or you updated before you tried it, but it does work in 3.0? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcamuso Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 rd2rk Oh wait! The second one worked! But I have 3.0 installed now, so I don't know if it would have worked with 2.92. Meanwhile, check out this preset. It requires you to put your footswitches in stomp/snapshot mode, that is, stomps in the top four and snaps in the bottom four. Mesa-echoes.hlx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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