mini Fuzz Face problem using variax VDI connection on Helix floor

[Euripide]

I have a silicon fuzz face mini (the blue one). When I using the GTR input with the fuzz before the Helix floor everyrhing is fine.

When using the VDI cable (which is my normal config: I don't use the guitar input), I place the fuzz face in the FX loop 2 out and then in the FX loop 4 return. Everything is fine as long the fuzz is in bypass mode. Whenever I engage the fuzz (battery alimented or ISO-Brick), there is no fuzz, only a big volume drop.

Is it normal? Is there something I'm doing wrong?

 

[datacommando]

On 8/5/2023 at 4:14 PM, Euripide said:

I place the fuzz face in the FX loop 2 out and then in the FX loop 4 return.

 

Hi,

 

Why are you doing this?

 

Your FuzzFace should be hooked up to FX Loop1 (mono),  1/4'' cable from Helix Send 1 to FF input, then another guitar cable from the FF output to Helix Return 1, ensure that your Global settings Ins/outs are on Instrument level, and the S/R FX block is set to Mix 100%

 

Also bear in mind that distortion FX are best place right at the front of the signal chain, which is why it works when you use the Guitar In socket. Helix then automatically adjusts the Input Impedance to match the what it sees on the input. Input Impedance can also be set to react to the first FX block in the Helix signal chain. IIRC, the Line 6  model of the FF (Arbitrator Fuzz) has always been a temperamental thing as it reacts differently if it is placed somewhere it gets an impedance mis-match. Personally I avoid the thing.

 

Hope this helps/makes sense

[codamedia]

On 8/5/2023 at 10:14 AM, Euripide said:

I place the fuzz face in the FX loop 2 out and then in the FX loop 4 return.

 

Pick one loop, insert it, and use those send/return plugs. If you must use separate send/returns, insert them as send/returns, not loops. 

[Euripide]

On 8/7/2023 at 7:13 AM, codamedia said:

 

Pick one loop, insert it, and use those send/return plugs. If you must use separate send/returns, insert them as send/returns, not loops. 

Thanks Codamedia: but I've found the problem: It was my fault!

I had a cable somewhere in the signal chain connected backwards... The funny thing is the sound was OK without the fuzz: that one I don't really understand it.

I guess it's part of all the "ghost in the machine" thing.

But anyway, now, there are no backwards cable connection in the signal chain and all is normal when I engage the fuzz.