Moving blocks from b to a and vice versa

[mrGromm]

Hellooo all

 

using a HX unit

 

 Is there a way to set a switch that will move effects from line B to line A and back again? To swap them from parallel to series?

 

been at a few hours now, played around with Y and a/b splitter, controller assign etc options to see if any of these worked, but nothing so far.

 

Combed the net a bit but don’t seem to be able to find anything

 

cheers in advance 

 

m

 

 

[silverhead]

If you have sufficient DSP available you can put the same FX bock with identical (or not) settings in both paths and use a footswitch to toggle them on/off. Each press of the footswitch will turn one off and the other on simultaneously. I think that achieves the result you want.

 

If there’s insufficient DSP in a parallel path you can probably create a dual path setup to achieve the same result.

[mrGromm]

Thanks Silverhead

 

yeah, limited DSP at this stage so would prefer to use the parallel/dual path you mention. I have played around with this a bit and not getting the results I want. Am I missing something here? Can you elaborate a little more for me?

 

cheers

[datacommando]

On 11/23/2023 at 2:33 AM, mrGromm said:

Hellooo all

 

using a HX unit

 

 Is there a way to set a switch that will move effects from line B to line A and back again? To swap them from parallel to series?

 

been at a few hours now, played around with Y and a/b splitter, controller assign etc options to see if any of these worked, but nothing so far.

 

Combed the net a bit but don’t seem to be able to find anything

 

cheers in advance 

 

m

Hi,

 

It might help if you could explain what exactly is the concept of what you are trying to achieve here.

 

I have a Helix floor, not a HX Effects, but it appears to me you are asking if you can physically move (what seems to be a modulation block) from Path B to Path A by assigning a footswitch. No, that’s not physically possible, but with a little planning you may be able to mange to create a suitable signal path.
 

In your picture, it shows Path A (top) has a Distortion block (bypassed) followed by a Send/Return block (bypassed) and then continues to another ? block. Path B spits from A prior to the Distortion, and contains a Mod  block (On), followed by a Filter block (bypassed) then rejoins Path A before the ? Block.

 

As suggested by @silverhead in the post above, you could possibly add a duplicate of the Mod block on Path A after the Send/Return and use a switch to turn on the one in path B while the one in path A is off. Likewise, when you bypass the one in Path B it turns on the Mod block in path A. 
 

As I mentioned, knowing what you want to achieve would help, as there are stacks of ways to route signals and assign footswitches in the hardware by using Snapshots and Instant Commands. 
 

Hope this helps/makes sense.

 

Edit:

Here’s a video showing two effect bocks the toggle from one F/S.

 

 

Edited November 23, 2023 by datacommando
Added vid

[mrGromm]

Thanks Datacommando

 

as I said, all my blocks are taken- send/return 1, delays looper etc- and don’t really want to double up on effects

 

basically all that I want to do is have the option of moving the tremolo (path b) from parallel to series and back again. I gues sandwich the paths back together at the a/b/y splitter and then open it up again.
 

With all this tech it seems like a simple function that has been overlooked.. dunno
 

I use my hx in stomp mode mostly and haven’t really explored snapshots yet- is this my best bet?

 

Cheers

[silverhead]

Sorry,  didn’t notice that you have the HX FX, not a full Helix. The dual path suggestion I made is not possible on the HX FX. 
 

I don’t think snapshots will allow you to do it. Snapshots don’t allow you to reposition blocks in the signal chain. Unless you have a free block to add a second instance of the block you want to move I don’t know that there’s a solution for you.

 

You could experiment with using two different presets with the only difference being the position and on/off state of the block you want to move. However there may be an audio gap as the presets switch.

[mrGromm]

Cheers Silverhead,

 

yeah, I currently have the two presets set up- not a big drama, just means toggling between the two.

 

Might have to make a suggestion to the Line 6 team and hope it grabs

their attention.

 

thank you both, much appreciated 

[amsdenj]

A good example where this feature would be useful would be when using chorus. Sometimes you want the chorus in front of the amp, or before distortion, and sometimes after. I generally prefer stereo chorus after the amp and cab to preserve the doubling and mixing in a linear block. But if you want to get that Clapton chorus tone, you need to put it in front of distortion, with just a bit of chorus to give the tone depth. 

 

For Helix, the solution is multiple blocks or different patches. I believe all the current modelers are similar, you can't change the signal path configuration in a patch, you can only turn blocks of and on.