guilhordas Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 what is the best way to record pod hd on a professional studio? usb or xlr outs? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lachinelli Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I'd say S/PDIF. Eventhough A/D conversion will still occur within the pod, it could benefit from less latency from the studio's interface. If your POD doesn't have a S/PDIF output I'd suggest USB because it will still go digital inside the studio's DAW. The only downside is that the engineer will have to agree on installing POD's ASIO drivers. Don't use the XLR or 1/4 outputs because double conversion will happen. That is, your guitar's signal will be converted to digital when it enters the POD, converted to analog when it goes through the XLR or 1/4 output and then again converted to digital by the studio's interface. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazzy Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 USB can be pretty darn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelForbin Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I suppose you would want to test all options; with the various outputs from the HD you might have benefits and limitations depending on the specifics of the studio. For example, the studio likely has a very high end soundcard interface, which depending on the type of software being used, may require use of their soundcard. With the new ProTools 11, you can use any soundcard, so that limitation is effectively removed in some cases, but in other instances, the DAW software may not function properly, or be routed properly to monitor audio playback when using the HD500 USB port- which defines the HD500 as the ASIO soundcard. The SPDIF option is a good one, because it allows you to send a digital signal into the studio's soundcard; assuming they can take that form of digital input. Last, there may actually be some benefit to using the studio console to take the XLR inputs, depending on the quality of the preamps / XLR inputs, you may actually be able to achieve a nice "warming" up of your signal quality, despite being subjected to additional A/D D/A conversions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilhordas Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 Nice, thanks i'ii try all options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazzy Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Nice, thanks i'ii try all options The inevitable outcome. If you don't try all options you'll never really know what works best for you. There really are so many ways to record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilhordas Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 and what about recording jtv with vidi cable, is there any loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandrio Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 u ..lose a couple of AD-DA conversions... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilhordas Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 But this is good? Is better to record with 1/4 on jtv? u ..lose a couple of AD-DA conversions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandrio Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 theoretically with VDI is better, but practically speaking no substantial diffs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lachinelli Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I see that it's been suggested that XLR or 1/4 would be good if the preamps in the studio are good. I'd only suggest this method if the preamps were high end tube preamps, and the signal were coloured in a very pleasant way. Remember that in this way, double conversion still occurs, so it means you're losing information and there's data degradation at some point.What you can do at the studio is the following: Connect your POD via S/PDIF and also one of the XLR or 1/4 outputs to the preamps of the interface. Remember that if you're using the 1/4 output you'll have to put the output switch into "Amp" if you're sending it to the preamp input, that is, like if it was connected to the input of an amp. The logic is that in "Amp" mode, the signal is preamped by the amplifier or in the studio's preamp. "Line" setting is for when you're sending the output to the Power Amp stage of an amp, which means the signal comes out preamplified from the POD itself. So remember to set this in "Amp" or you'll most likely overload and clip the input of the studio's preamp.I used this method at my home's studio for my last record. I was recording 3 tracks all the time; S/PDIF track, and the two 1/4 outputs going to 2 different preamps with different 12AX7 tubes, which gave different colouring to the sound. I finally decided to use S/PDIF tracks for my songs since they sounded better to my taste. The tube colouring wasn't worth the loss of data, and if you can build up a good patch in the pod using every tool you have in there, the signal will come out great, and will probably only need a just some EQ to fit the whole mix. In the last songs I didn't even bother connecting the preamps so I just recorded S/PDIF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfsmith0 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I agree with SPDIF as being the best. Only a single ADC conversion takes place. This also happens with USB but I don't trust the reliability/robustness of that - maybe I'm just remembering the early USB days and it's better now. But SPDIF has always been rock steady. Always will. Digital audio is what it's made for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazzy Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) I'd have to agree with you all about the SPDIF being good digital quality without a doubt. I went out of my HD500 into the X3Pro and was very happy with the results. I try all different ways of recording off an on to keep me in a state of flux. I just created this with X3Pro USB to Laptop plugged in for power, monitored from the Phone out of X3, Recorded with Riffworks Standard while changeing settings with Gearbox. Recorded with Riffworks & Ableton Live Lite 8. This is purely subjective, check it out if Ya want. "MIXed uP" You might get kick out of it, LOL. and "Spinal Puppet & Line 6 Lunatic No Gate". Edited June 28, 2014 by Brazzy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjnette Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I monitor in the studio thru a marshal amp and mic it sm57 or NT1 into 1173 clone preamp. It's input is pushed for some mojo from the input transformers iron. The advantage is with the HD modelling the volume on the amp doesn't have to be loud I prefer the HD's output mode to be "combo front" focus 200hz or so; -4 low shelf; -40 high shelf It is quieter than studio direct but similar tonality. I also connect the s/pdif with that output mode and more than often only use the mic'd track. If I record another part or solo, It'll be a different guitar bridge pickups and different HD patch. Often the s/pdif gets used for the stereo field. I'd avoid doubling the conversion as it's good advice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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