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  1. davec69

    mains went out

    There have been reports from others, of sound cutting out during a show. Our band has experienced this as well. For us, we lose all sound. When this happens, the only remedy is to turn off the mixer, then turn it on again. After we restart the mixer, it has not happened again in the same show. Now, before every show, I turn on the mixer until it finishes booting, then I turn it off and reboot for a second time, just in case. There have been a few posts about a ribbon cable inside the mixer, that is very close to the metal back wall of the mixer. On occassion (sudden movement, ect) the cable can touch the metal mixer wall and short the system. Some guys have opened the mixer and put a strip of tape on the mixer wall, to stop the cable from touching. This may or may not be related to the problem. Photos in this thread
  2. Here's a new one. Not even sure how this is possible. Firstly, at last weekends show, I got a black screen and error message (didn't write it down, but something related to "App") upon initial power up of our M20D. Talk about crapping z pantz....... Fortunately, after turning the mixer off, and restarting, It powered up successfully. The next problem appeared during the show. I had two different microphones, each plugged into a different channels of the M20D, appearing on the same fader. I don't remember the exact channels, but it was like the mic plugged into channel 12 was appearing at channel 6 along with the mic plugged into channel 6. Channel 6 was used for a sax player, and channel 12 was used for a trombone player. I set the level for the sax player, and it was fine, then the trombone started playing, and the volume was much louder, but also appearing at fader 6. Channel 12 showed no signal. Never seen that before. I'm thinking that maybe a reinstall of the v1.20 firmware is in order. Is this possible? Would my saved setups still be available after the firmware upgrade? One note, the setup used was a very old setup, which I had not used in quite a while. Could it have gotten corrupted, along the way?
  3. My humble opinion, as a Dreamscape system owner since 2012. Looks like the death nail for the Dreamscape line, occurred when Yamaha bought out Line 6. Yamaha has their own PA products, they didn't need the trouble. They probably also had some idea, that the poor design of the M20d would eventually start causing many of the problems that we are seeing now, like intermittent sound, level changes, trim problems. People getting shocked due to grounding issues. (the above issues taken from posts on this forum). Better to let the products fade into obscurity, than to prolong it's life with a firmware update. Users have been adding feature requests for the M20d for 5 or 6 years. Not one was ever implemented. The android app never materialized. Of course, they'll say that it was never promised. The dreamscape products could have been a great line, but I'm afraid, their days have come and gone. The rest of the life cycle appears that it will be repair work, and eventually, the dark recesses of basements and attics, or the trash heap.
  4. For the second show now, the sound on our M20d has disappeared, mid performance. One second, we are singing along, next second, zero sound from the mixer. The only fix is to restart the mixer in the middle of the song. Last night, we only had two mains, (Fender Expo Speakers) and one monitor connected to the analog outputs of the M20D. Has anyone found a cause, or even better, a solution for this problem? BTW, we do have v1.20 firmware.
  5. Search the forum, and you'll find countless posts with this same topic. Going back for years. It's not going to happen. Yamaha bought Line 6. I'm guessing that they would rather focus on Yamaha Live Sound products, leaving M20D owners to wonder what might have been. Ask the M20D owners who have been waiting years for an Android app for the M20D, or those owners who posted hundreds of Ideas on the Ideascale page for the M20D. None of which has been developed. Then you have responses like the one below. .
  6. davec69

    M20d still current?

    Welcome to the Stagescape ghost town........not sure if you'll get a response from anyone relevant. My guess is that Yamaha (who purchased Line 6) has all but given on any PA products coming from Line 6/. There has been zero development on any of the Stagescape products, despite years of ideas being suggested by users. If you like the M20d as it is, go for it. If you're looking for something with possible future developement, look elsewhere.
  7. Thanks for the help. I disabled my Vipre antivirus, and I can now see the website as before. Now I just have to figure out how to stop Vipre from blocking CSS.
  8. For many weeks now, the formatting on the Line 6 Forum and website has been screwed up for me, with many most images missing. Is anyone else getting the same thing? I've tried Chrome, Firefox and IE, but all have the same problem. For years, the formatting was fine. See attachments
  9. Here you go: To create a Group encoder: 1. Double-press any unassigned hardware encoder. - The Select Channels For Group Encoder window will open, displaying all channels available for grouping. 2. Tap the channel icons you’d like to include in the GroupName the Group in the Group Name field, then tap the blue OK button. - A Group controller strip will appear in the M20d stage view, automatically assigned to the hardware encoder you originally double-pressed. Now you can adjust all 3 channels with the one Group encoder.
  10. No problems, It's just nice knowing that someone else visits this forum.
  11. Sorry for the confusion. You are correct about the Line 6 guy. No. I have not seen any press releases pointing either direction. Matter of fact, I haven't heard or seen anything related to Line 6's PA product line. Based on that fact, I'm inclined to agree with the comments, and state that it is only speculation.
  12. Check out this Anderton review video of the new Line 6 Helix pedal, wherein the Anderton Music guy speaks of the return of the original founder to Line 6, and their desire in his opinion, to become the leader of guitar modelers again, getting away from other things like PA gear and such. Starts around 4 minutes into the video.
  13. I like the Aux idea. Maybe you can put a feature request in Idealscale and watch it get ignored like all the other customer suggested feature requests :lol:
  14. FYI. QSC's just released firmware just added Android support to the Touchmix series mixers. In addition: Support for MIDI-over-USB Footswitches Option to Omit Output Settings from Scene Recall Multi Language Info System - In addition to English, the mixer’s built-in Info system and demo screens now include user selectable options for Chinese (Mandarin), French, German, Russian and Spanish Auxes to Main L/R Assignability -The auxiliary buses may now be assigned to the Main Left and Right outputs, allowing any auxiliary to function as a sub-group. Those are the kind of firmware updates that I expected from the M20D. A great example of a company listening to it's customers.
  15. We're just discussing here, so no worries about disrespect and the like. Looks like we agree on most points. I'll just touch on the couple of spots where we disagree. We'll have to agree to disagree with the belief that Line 6 does not take into consideration the tone of discussion about the M20d on this forum, or for that matter every other social media avenue out there. It's 2015, those avenues highly affect the success or failure of products. In general, discussion of the M20d is good on the social media front. There are no glaring defects or omissions in the M20d that people are going on about, and owners and non owners alike generally think of it as a good product. Couple that with a quiet discussion forum, where it appears that many owners are just happy to have what they have, and I doubt that we will see any future product updates for the M20d. No need for Line 6/Yamaha to invest any more money into it. It is what it is, so to speak. I can only speak for myself when I say that I expect more from a develop-able product like the M20d in 2015, and point to a few other products that I feel get it right. I've mentioned previously my Kemper Profiling Amp. These guys know how to develop a product, and keep customers engaged for years. They consistently interact on their user discussion forum, and us users see the results of those interactions, as updates and new features added to the product. You definitely feel like you're getting your money's worth when you buy a Kemper product. What is funny is that Line 6 also does this with many of their guitar products. This makes me think that it's definitely a case of the squeaky wheel gets the grease. TC Electronic, another company that has fully embraced the develop-able product concept. They listen their product owners and incorporate new features regularly. And finally, QSC, another example of a company that seems to be on a the right path towards developing their Touchmix mixer with customers in mind Just checked out their forum out of curiosity, and saw a thread from someone asking when an Android app would be available. One of the QSC moderators chimed in that it was under development, and would probably be available early next year, along with a Iphone Aux app. Compare that answer to the same question being asked on this forum about the M20d: Hi, Can the M20D be controlled with an Android tablet via wifi? Cheers This response comes from one of the Line 6 "Experts" it's a 2000$ mixer.... the argument can be made that people who can buy one... can also buy a 200$ ipad. sure android would be easy for you since you already own one.... and i have nothing against android.... if that stops you from buying one, maybe you just don't want it bad enough? The above thread can be found on this forum. Search "Android" for yourself. The Line 6 Moderator had this to say in the same thread: Android is not "class compliant" and it is also much slower. Each Android manufacturer has their own version of the operating system. That means you have to create a number of apps and that drives costs. Again, i will emphasize that I have no complaints with my M20d, the way it is. it does what it does. My only complaint is that I expected more interaction/development for my dollar. It appears that many of you are still in the release it and forget it mentality of the good ole days, and no demand ultimately leads to no development. Nothing wrong with that, just two different perspectives.
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