hankmadison
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can't get my head around recording with Logic pro.
hankmadison replied to markblack77's topic in Helix
I've gone through this thread multiple times and I'm still having some problems. I want to record the Helix via Logic Pro and be able to adjust the monitoring level of the track being recorded without adjusting the recording level. Up until now, in order to get a good monitoring/volume blend I've been using the Helix's channel outputs to set the level but this also changes the recording level. Is there a way to control these independently without latency? Thanks. -
Something to consider: I only use my Helix setup for recording. After using Sonarworks plugins to adjust my listening setup, I was amazed at how much better my guitar sounds are. It was alarming how much the room was coloring the sound and screwing up my ability to discern what I was hearing. I was really struggling to get good sounds and so much of it had to do with the room. If I were to set up my rig for live stuff, this setup would allow the sounds to be created with confidence (knowing that the room's impact had been diminished significantly). Then at the gig I could use Helix's global EQ to compensate for the live room if/when needed. I prefer spending my time playing music rather than messing with gear so the extra few bucks for the Sonarworks system has been well worth it. Curious to see if this would help you guys as well. Good luck!
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In addition to recording guitar, bass, and variax I use Helix to record vocals as well as voice overs (I host a podcast). My Scarlett interface sits in the closet now. I use minimal effects in the Helix while recording and add all that stuff in post. I've been very happy with this setup. I have presets for everything. Everything stays connected at all times. This makes it very fast and easy to record quickly.
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Update: When I try to record this phase weirdness out of USB it doesn't happen in the recorded signal. I then tried to record the headphone out (using it 1/4" TRS Y-Cable) into (2) separate inputs in another recording interface. Same thing -- no phase issues. It sounds normal. Two possible scenarios: (1) I'm crazy (which is debatable) or (2) Some kind of weird impedance thing happening with the headphones? Not sure. Bottom line is that it's not affecting the output signal so I can track with this and know that it's not affecting the final product. Curious if anyone else ever runs into this. FYI -- I'm only hearing it through the mic input. I don't hear this when a guitar is used as the input device. Thanks to those that chimed in.
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Glad you're doing this. A patch with all the different sounds for "Camera Eye" would be great. Alex's live Hentor tone from the Power Windows days was cool (see "Witch Hunt" on Show of Hands which was recorded on the PW tour). His most recent big growly tone with the Les Paul thru the Lerxst amps sounds amazing on a big 1st position D chord. Always wanted to play around with his wiry tone from the Hold Your Fire days. Not my favorite era but it was cool when he would blend it with his overdrive signal (2 amps). It would be great to have a patch that had all the sounds for Hemispheres too!
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Nope. When I was recording I was recording USB 1. Again, this is happening without USB connection to anything and only monitoring via headphones. I've opened a support ticket. Thanks for taking a crack at this, guys!
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Thanks, Peter. I've been unconnected from Logic this whole time. I, too, mute the record enabled track in Logic while recording and monitor through Helix. Again -- this is happening without connection to Logic -- purely monitoring via headphones with Helix. I only connected to Logic when I was trying to record it. Somehow the USB output is not getting this, but the headphones from Helix are -- regardless of being connected to Logic. Seems like it would be pretty easy to replicate on someone else's system. Is anyone else trying this and seeing if it's repeatable?
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Thanks for the input. There is nothing else in the path. And path 2A is empty as well with no input selected.
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The plot thickens. I attempted to record this in Logic. While I was recorded I was monitoring via headphones connected to Helix. I could hear the phasing issue clearly. When I reviewed the recording the phasing issue wasn't there. The FX Loop was transparent. Any ideas about what is happening here? What is different about the signal going through the headphones vs the signal going through USB to Logic?
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Thanks for chiming in. As of now, I simply have an FX Loop block in the chain and I'm hearing this issue. Nothing else is in there. The phasing issue happens regardless of whether or not the external unit is bypassed or engaged. Mic --> FX Loop block (mix at 100%) --> external unit --> back to Helix and out (Multi) And this is also repeatable in a different FX Loop using a different external unit and different cables.
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Yes.
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Anyone will to test this with your Helix? I've got an SM7 connected to the Helix via the mic input. I have nothing in the signal chain -- no blocks. Healthy signal running to Logic. All sounds good. I pulled out my old RNC compressor and put it into one of the FX loops. I notice that when I make the FX Loop block active (even with the outboard unit on bypass) that I can hear a slight chorus effect and a loss of low end. Sounds like a bit of the original dry signal is getting mixed back in and there's a phase issue. I still hear this when I engage the compressor. When I bypass the FX Loop block the signal is nice and full again. I decided to test this with another "true bypass" outboard unit with different cables on a different FX Loop. I'm getting the same weird phasing issue. I don't use the FX Loops when I'm playing guitar through the Helix so this is the first time I've come across this. I don't have a problem running effects in Logic, but it would suck if the Helix's FX Loops aren't transparent. Anyone else notice this? Thanks.
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Helix Microphone Input Setting Levels with Studio Mic Pre Block
hankmadison replied to hankmadison's topic in Helix
It's working correctly now. Not sure what was going on. Thanks again for your help, Peter. -
Helix Microphone Input Setting Levels with Studio Mic Pre Block
hankmadison replied to hankmadison's topic in Helix
The sensitivity is "Line" or "Mic." Which do you choose? Thanks.
