PaulTBaker

I wonder what the hd500x would sound like running through the Helix effects loop? Will try that when I get home! Thanks for the idea

Your response brought about a new question (sorry, hope it's not too much off track from the OP).... You said you use the HX Effects with the Helix using an effects loop. Where do you place the loop in your chain? I know it probably depends on what you are doing, but is there a typical spot? I have this question because I also would like just a few more stomps when playing live... mainly for effects. In the past, I have had two presets with the same amp/cab, etc... but a different set of effects.

"Snapshot Bypass pertains to the Bypass Status of a Block. It doesn't prevent parameter changes to the Block." Thank you. That makes sense. I have the snapshot global settings set that way so I don't have to save each snapshot before changing to the next. I guess I could change it to discard when playing live. Thank you for the suggestion. I'll play with that and see what happens!

Just wondering if this is a bug, expected behavior, or problem between the keyboard and the chair! My global settings for snapshot edit = Recall and snapshot Reselect = Reload. I have snapshots set to change the reverb levels or delay settings. I want all the other settings to stay the same. I keep it in stomp mode and use it like a pedal board. To change snapshots, I click bank up and bank down at the same time. This lets me select a snapshot (to change reverb, delay settings, or whatever), then it automatically goes back to stomp mode. I have the Snapshot Bypass unchecked for all blocks except the reverbs and delays(things that change with snapshots) so the activated stomps don't change when I pick a snapshot. All of this works great! My problem is with the amp blocks. For some presets (patches), I have a stomp set to change the volume and drive settings on the amp (clean to dirty). A few days ago, I noticed that even with the snapshot bypass for the amp unchecked, changing snapshots changes the amp(drive,volume) settings to whatever they were the last time the snapshot was active. It is like the drive/volume settings are being saved with the snapshot. I thought unchecking the Snapshot Bypass on the amp was supposed to keep that from happening. Other blocks behave the way they should, for example, I can have the vibe block activated, then change a snapshot to add reverb and the vibe block stays active, even if it was not active the last time I was on that snapshot. An example of the problem is I can be playing a lead with the drive/volume block activated. I want more delay, so I change to the heavy delay snapshot, however the drive/volume block changes based on the last time I was on that snapshot. Clear as mud? Does anyone know if that is the expected behavior? It seems that assigning an amps parameter to a block makes it ignore the Snapshot Bypass setting. All help is appreciated!

That sounds like you may be using the One button Looper as opposed to the Six(?) button looper. I use the one button looper and it just shows the colors on the button. If I use the 6 button looper, the screen changes to show the different options.

I think this may be more of a button issue. I have had the same issue in the past versions as well. you hit bank down and it skips two banks.

could it have something to do with the new auto impedance feature that changes the guitar impedance based on the first Activated item in your chain?

Kind of off topic, but was very important to me. The Cab you use (or I use). I use the stock 1x15 bass cab with the gain up to 5.2 low pass at 90, high pass around 8k. I have an eq block at the end that does more high/low cuts). I play the Helix lt through a DT25 with the line6 cable and xlr outs into a xr18 through EV ZLX's as my home rig. At gigs, I use the DT25 and then xlr's to FOH. Back to the cab.... IMO, I did not like any of the other cabs... I would match watch Jason S. was doing and the other cabs still sounded too brittle.... then I used the 1x15 cab. To me it sounds great.... and on every amp. So to me, I believe the Cab is as important as the amp (I know that is not what this thread is, sorry.... just thought it was important since the OP is going to be learning stuff). I have what i call a Master set list that I put the patches i will use in a gig on... I try to keep it at 4 banks (16 patches). I have another setlist that I am going through each amp and building patches based on each amp and grouping them together. When I find something that blows me away, I replace something in my Master Set List with it. So, now to my fav amps: - clean: arch clean, Tweed Blues, Lux Nrm, and the Zed - crunch/drive: Plexi, J45, Cali Rect., Tweed blues - high gain: Solo and the Revv amps

Nancy must be Karens sister.... or maybe grandmother ... keeping the age thing alive :)

Be careful if you upgrade to 2.0 on your DT25. One of my DT25's will not work any more after I tried to upgrade it. My other DT25 upgraded with no problems... using the same cable and same process.....

check the level of your 1/4 and XLR outputs in the configuration screen. the line level will blast your amp, change it to mic (i think its mic.... just not line)

What is the output for the very last path... 2b? I don't understand that last merge.

how do you do that, you don't get to put an effect on the r or l path.... or am I missing something (which is a distinct possibility :) )

That is what I am doing... I haven't really tried snapshots.... I don't really like the "preset per song" approach, not judging, just my preference. I come from the hd500x world, so that is the approach I first took... having most presets with the same stomps in the same places, just changing amps or adding wilder effects. I started using the snapshots to turn on some of the stomps when I ran out of buttons (I have the lt so I only have 8). That works, but it is messy live. I setup my board to go clean to crunchy to drive (with different amps) on the banks... so I know whatever bank I am on, preset a will be cleaner that preset d. For the setlists, I would have a setlist for my LesPaul, for my Tele, and for my yamah with wicked p90s... then I would duplicate those setlists and as a SAVE setlist so when I screwed something up live, I could go back and get the good one. Now that covid is here and I haven't played out since last February (damn, that hurts :)), I have changed my approach. I have a setlist where I am grouping all the amps together. I still have one or two basic "templates" with the stomps in the same places. I will use those and just change out the amp. I will have one for the pre and one for the Full amp. I like this approach. I have found it easier to find what I am looking (clean vs drive based on the amp). All my presets will give me clean to drive settings, some with changing parameters in the amp and some with just stacking the Minatour and the Timmy. When I get a really good preset, I will put it in another setlist which is dedicated to each of the guitars.... so when I play out, I will have the few presets I need already together. If I need something else, I go to my "amps" setlist that has all the amps setup.... This is one of my main "templates". I have it setup so I can record the loop through the 1/4 out and my jamming through the other out... it records each separately.

Sorry for the confusion. I may be calling things the wrong thing. What I am talking about is the ability to make a button be a snapshot or a preset using the command center. I thought I read where you could make it so, let's say you are in snapshot mode, you could reassign a button to be one of your presents... So you have 7 snapshots and one preset.....or you could assign the mode button to be a snapshot or preset. That's what I thought I read...... Thanks

Hey all... just wondering if anyone has used the ability to reasign what the buttons do? I'm curious as to what people did.

yes it would be easier to take it to a shop..... however there is not one in 500 miles of me! I have a bricked dt25 that was bricked trying to upgrade to ver 2.0 so I could use it with the helix. very frustrating.... so, saying it would be easier to take it to a shop is kind of flippant and relative..... and sorry, not meaning any disrespect, it just hit me wrong cause I miss having my other amp!

got it to work.. it's really cool... (for me anyway :)) so I have a path 2 and now path 2A. 2A only has the looper on it and it's out is to the 1/4 inch. The looper is at the end of the chain. Path 2 out is to the XLR's. I have the xlr's and 1/4 inches on different inputs on the XR18. When creating the loop, I have the mix between path 2 and 2a set in the middle. When playing the loop and playing on top of it (and recording all this in separate tracks in Reaper) I have the mix between path 2 and 2a set to bypass the looper. This way, none of my guitar playing gets through on the looper 1/4 outs as well as the looper doesn't get in the xlr outs. I thought that was cool :)

Has anyone ever tried to put the looper in a different out? I would like to be able to record the looper in a separate track and still play on top of it in another track. I'm using the Helix light with xr18 into reaper. Just curious if anyone else has tried this.

My down bank button has started moving down two banks... .i.e. going from bank 3,4 to 31,32. I have to be careful when I mash it. Has that happened to anyone else? Is that a warranty fix?

Does the preamp then cab cancel out stereo blocks before them. For example, would the signal be changed to mono by the preamp and cab block. So the stereo minator would just mono after the amp cab... So no need in using stereo until after the amp/cab. Is that correct, or am I missing something.

cool.. thanks! Too bad they don't go to 11 :)

don't know how to reply, so this is in reply to phil_m about the DT25 being fragile. First off... I love mine. I have two. The first one I has had a lot of trouble. I had to take it to a tech in a near by city several times. had to fix a fuse inside and something else. Also, the tubes have gone bad alot. Part of that was on me (maybe all of this :)) by using different tubes... .but even when I went back to the EH's, I had problems. seems it was fine if I didn't move it, but taking it to gigs and practice, it would have problems. It worked ok for a few years, then last year when I was trying to upgrade it to 2.0 to use with the Helix... it got stuck in the middle and now it will turn on, but none of the switches work and no sound. Broke my heart! I did the same upgrade procedure to my other DT25 and luckily that worked. My problem is there isn't a shop that works on the DT25 anywhere near me.... so now it is just dead!

that is awesome... thanks!

First, that was really nice. Second, beautiful guitars. Third, that was really nice :).... Ok, forgive me for sort of being off topic. Here is a perfect example of why it would be nice to be able view the helix edit without the helix unit connected. I would love to SEE what he has put together. I should be working of course, but I want to think about important stuff so of course I came to the Helix site. You have done a great job on this and I would love to see you signal chain, etc.... ok, I'm done. Thank you for sharing, very nicely done. The tones were dead on and the playing was very clean!