PaulTBaker

nice! what a great look! I also love the DT25. I have two of them. One bricked trying to upgrade to 2.0 to use with the helix. I did change the tubes (correct tubes!) and set the bias a few times. Very Very Carefully! My problem was the DT25, at least in my case, was/is so fragile. I bought a PC 112+ and used it this past weekend. I am really happy with that for gigging. It is much lighter and feels more sturdy.

I have been using a helix lt and dt25 connected by the l6link. Just bought a PC112+. can I connect that to the dt25 using l6link? If not, what is the best way to connect these three so I can get stereo? Also, I have been reading where the pc112+ input light needs to be yellow for optimal input. I know I can boost the input using the helix on each patch (under the settings for the powercab), but is there a global setting for the powercab so i don't have to change each patch (preset)? thanks.

Would like to know if anyone has done a comparison. For my setup at home I have the Helix Lt hooked to a DT25 using the l6link (this is my stage setup for monitoring my stage sound). I run XLR L an R cables to a berringer XR18 mixer which has two EV ZLX 12P's hooked to it (this simulates the FOH for shows). This gives me a beautiful full sound! I have the helix set so the big knob controls digital only. This sends a full signal out of the XLR's to the board and lets me control my stage volume (dt25) with the big knob. Again, this works great. I love the DT25 and have two of them. I have two of them because they are (at least in my case) very fragile. One DT25 died when I was trying to upgrade it to 2.0 to be able to use it with the Helix. Because the DT25 is fragile, I've been thinking about using powercabs (either two cab pluses or one 212) for gigs. Then today, I thought... hey, why not just use the EV ZLX's instead. If I am not mistaken, wouldn't that be the same as using the FRFR part of the powercabs? So my question (I know, finally:O) is has anyone done a comparison between the powercabs and using the EV ZLX's for live gigs. Mainly for on stage monitoring. I used to use the zlx sometimes with the HD500x for gigs when the DT25 was in the shop and that sounded pretty good. Did not quite cut through though. Thanks everyone, I look forward to seeing what you guys think!

Thank you guys. So the way I have been doing things seems to be ok. I have my xlr's at mic level, my patches around 60% on the helix meters. I have the big knob just going to digital. That lets me use that to control my DT25 (l6 link connection) volume for my stage monitor. It also means the output is at 100% for the xlr's. thanks again.

Ok, back to leveling patches again..... This question has to do with the meter level on the output block for patches. Should you set your patches so the meter level is at 50%, 75%, or higher (or lower)? Or does it matter? Is there an optimum level for the meter? (sorry, trying to find the best way to ask this question). Or since it's digital, it really doesn't matter. I know I can adjust the loudness of the helix based on what I have the trim set to if going to a FOH or what I have the amp or FSFR speaker volume set to if using those. Should we try and set the patch meters to somewhere around 75% to get the best signal to noise ratio? Does the patch set to 75% sound "meatier" than the same patch set to 25% meter level? I know I can make both patches as loud as I want, just wondering if it affects tone. If there is a difference, what is the optimum meter level? Thanks! Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts!

make sure you set the bias on the tubes (carefully) and use only the EH tubes. Lot's of threads on how the amp is spec'd specifically for those tubes.

Yes you can. You can set it to turn on amp off and the other amp on. Sorry, can't remember how, but yes you can do it. I do that in a few of my presets.

ok, that explains things. I have the same (sort of) problem. On some presets, I have amp vol and drive parameters tied to a stomp button(not snapshot). The amp has the snapshot bypass = off. When I change snapshots, the amp drive/vol change back to whatever they were the last time I was in the snapshot. That does explain things, however, I don't like it :)

Is it possible to have the mode set where I have it in stomp mode, if I then hit the mode button, it will go to snap mode, but then after picking a snap, have it go back to stomp mode? So what I would like is the mode button to temporarily go to snap mode, then switch to stomp mode (like it does when you hit bank up/down at the same time) I like to stay in stomp mode, but use snapshots to change delay or reverb settings, or turn on a stomp because I'm out of buttons.

thanks all for the feed back... no pun intended :) question for rd2rk. siince i am using the xr18 for sound, how would i level the patches without using the xr18? I do keep my blocks as close to unity gain as possible. Amsdenj are you suggesting I start with a preset with no blocks and 1M imp. and use that to set the trim on the XR18? When I do that, I need to set the XR18 trim on +20. It was on +15. That makes me lower my channel volumes to 2 and below. Or is it better to start with the trim at 0 as Kid suggested. doing that I have to bring up the channel vol to 5 from 2. and it sounds more distorted??? interesting experiment. With the XR18, is there the thing about giving it a stronger signal vs a weaker signal because of the noise ratio? Thanks ALL!

Question about levels... I have a Helix LT. The digital out goes to DT25 (big knob set to control only this). The xlr's (set a mic level and max output since the big knob is digital only) go left and right to a berhinger XR18. The XR18 is my interface to Reaper on a mac. I've had the helix over a year now and have spent hours upon glorious hours tweaking etc. I really love the results! I use the XR18 software to monitor my levels when when doing preset leveling to make sure things are close, then I play some music, play a lead over the same piece to finish the levels. This has worked great. I try to have my levels set so the XR18 software channel level meter hovers around -15. again this works great for getting the presets t match. It dawned on me the other day that the level in the XR18 is also going to be dependent on the trim I have set for that channel. Since once the trim is set, it doesn't change so all my presets will still be level matched, however, the level of my trim will have a direct correlation with the channel volume in the Helix. If the trim is set high, the helix channel volume will be set lower to get to -15. If the trim is set low, the helix channel volume will have to be set higher to get the XR18 channel level to -15. Several questions come to mind: 1) The helix channel volume is not supposed to change the tone, so it should not matter (tone wise) if it is set to 2 or 8. Is this thought correct? 2) would the sound be different (coming out of the XR18) if I had a higher channel volume and lower trim, or does that matter? 3) does anyone else have this scenario now and what do you do? 4) the trim now is around 12. should I change this to zero and redo my patches? Or am I (as usual) over thinking things? :) Would love to hear your comments. Thanks!

either of the above would work. Just remember to set the output of the 1/4" to instrument instead of line in the global settings if you are going into the front of the amp.... don't think it would matter if you are going into the effects return of the amp, but the front of the amp will need the "lower" instrument feed. I have the helix lt running through a DT25 using the l6 link (which is the digital out on the helix). For context, I use clean to crunch to some od but no metal stuff. I went to a jam the other night and had to lug the amp (I know it's not that heavy, but I'm old and fat:)) upstairs to his jam room. He had some amps, but they didn't have an effects return. To keep from having to take the DT25 next time, I thought I would set up some patches where I could go straight into the front of an amp. The first thing I did was to get a good clean sound just plugging the guitar straight into the DT25 and using the B setting on the amp. Then I changed the global 1/4" setting on the helix to instrument and plugged it into the DT25. I copied one of my presets that uses a pre amp to a new preset and turned the preamp and the speaker on the helix off. Played some and all the other effects on the preset sounded good. Then I turned on the preamp block... .and that sounded good.... then for the heck of it, I turned on the cab block (1X15 ampeg) and that sounded even better (at least to me)... So I played around with preamps and full amps and speakers and such and the main thing I found out was that I just needed to make sure the 1/4" was on instrument and the preamps took over drive better that the full amps. Sorry for the long read, I just thought it was interesting. I thought I would have to come up with a bunch of different presets for plugging straight into an amp, but it turns out I can use what I have.

Actually I liked the flowers... meant something to me, so thank you! a list of what the parameters do would be nice as well.... and yes, I use my ears! but now I have flowery descriptions to put with what my ears are hearing :)

Ok, so I see what you are talking about. The up down buttons could be set to either the next bank or to the next set of stomps.

Couldn't you use one of your snapshots to change the parameter of the output block

I wonder what the hd500x would sound like running through the Helix effects loop? Will try that when I get home! Thanks for the idea

Your response brought about a new question (sorry, hope it's not too much off track from the OP).... You said you use the HX Effects with the Helix using an effects loop. Where do you place the loop in your chain? I know it probably depends on what you are doing, but is there a typical spot? I have this question because I also would like just a few more stomps when playing live... mainly for effects. In the past, I have had two presets with the same amp/cab, etc... but a different set of effects.

"Snapshot Bypass pertains to the Bypass Status of a Block. It doesn't prevent parameter changes to the Block." Thank you. That makes sense. I have the snapshot global settings set that way so I don't have to save each snapshot before changing to the next. I guess I could change it to discard when playing live. Thank you for the suggestion. I'll play with that and see what happens!

Just wondering if this is a bug, expected behavior, or problem between the keyboard and the chair! My global settings for snapshot edit = Recall and snapshot Reselect = Reload. I have snapshots set to change the reverb levels or delay settings. I want all the other settings to stay the same. I keep it in stomp mode and use it like a pedal board. To change snapshots, I click bank up and bank down at the same time. This lets me select a snapshot (to change reverb, delay settings, or whatever), then it automatically goes back to stomp mode. I have the Snapshot Bypass unchecked for all blocks except the reverbs and delays(things that change with snapshots) so the activated stomps don't change when I pick a snapshot. All of this works great! My problem is with the amp blocks. For some presets (patches), I have a stomp set to change the volume and drive settings on the amp (clean to dirty). A few days ago, I noticed that even with the snapshot bypass for the amp unchecked, changing snapshots changes the amp(drive,volume) settings to whatever they were the last time the snapshot was active. It is like the drive/volume settings are being saved with the snapshot. I thought unchecking the Snapshot Bypass on the amp was supposed to keep that from happening. Other blocks behave the way they should, for example, I can have the vibe block activated, then change a snapshot to add reverb and the vibe block stays active, even if it was not active the last time I was on that snapshot. An example of the problem is I can be playing a lead with the drive/volume block activated. I want more delay, so I change to the heavy delay snapshot, however the drive/volume block changes based on the last time I was on that snapshot. Clear as mud? Does anyone know if that is the expected behavior? It seems that assigning an amps parameter to a block makes it ignore the Snapshot Bypass setting. All help is appreciated!

That sounds like you may be using the One button Looper as opposed to the Six(?) button looper. I use the one button looper and it just shows the colors on the button. If I use the 6 button looper, the screen changes to show the different options.

I think this may be more of a button issue. I have had the same issue in the past versions as well. you hit bank down and it skips two banks.

could it have something to do with the new auto impedance feature that changes the guitar impedance based on the first Activated item in your chain?

Kind of off topic, but was very important to me. The Cab you use (or I use). I use the stock 1x15 bass cab with the gain up to 5.2 low pass at 90, high pass around 8k. I have an eq block at the end that does more high/low cuts). I play the Helix lt through a DT25 with the line6 cable and xlr outs into a xr18 through EV ZLX's as my home rig. At gigs, I use the DT25 and then xlr's to FOH. Back to the cab.... IMO, I did not like any of the other cabs... I would match watch Jason S. was doing and the other cabs still sounded too brittle.... then I used the 1x15 cab. To me it sounds great.... and on every amp. So to me, I believe the Cab is as important as the amp (I know that is not what this thread is, sorry.... just thought it was important since the OP is going to be learning stuff). I have what i call a Master set list that I put the patches i will use in a gig on... I try to keep it at 4 banks (16 patches). I have another setlist that I am going through each amp and building patches based on each amp and grouping them together. When I find something that blows me away, I replace something in my Master Set List with it. So, now to my fav amps: - clean: arch clean, Tweed Blues, Lux Nrm, and the Zed - crunch/drive: Plexi, J45, Cali Rect., Tweed blues - high gain: Solo and the Revv amps

Nancy must be Karens sister.... or maybe grandmother ... keeping the age thing alive :)

Be careful if you upgrade to 2.0 on your DT25. One of my DT25's will not work any more after I tried to upgrade it. My other DT25 upgraded with no problems... using the same cable and same process.....