PaulTBaker

I believe the 112+ has the monitor option for input two. If I have the foh feed sent to the pc, then I will hear what the audience is hearing ( at least close to anyway). So I would hear my guitar in that mix. I would also hear my guitar through the PC from my l6link. So there really isn't a way for me to tell if my guitar is loud enough out front. The guitar sound could be low in the foh mix but would be loud if I had it turned up on the l6link. I believe that means I can't use the monitor option to get a read of the foh level for the guitar. I could however, use it to hear the rest of the band.

Thank you. So I guess I am the correct neighborhood. I also use the helix as the interface, so I guess that is a pretty close reading. Thanks all for the info. Very timely post for me!

Just got that meter a little while ago. And yes it helps. I'm trying to find out how to read what it is telling me. What level are you trying to reach. I am trying to get to around - 15 to - 12 for peaks. I've read some things about it it,but I'm still not certain I am using it correctly. It is a feed tool.

I thought that if you set it to "monitor" then it makes it FRFR. Is that not the case? I thought of doing that. We use a behringer XR18 as our mixer. I sometimes have aux four set as "grouped" (I think that is the correct term) where each channel represents what is coming out the fronts. The thought here is to have a way to monitor (sortof) the FOH from the stage. I usually put my pc+ (112 or 212) facing me at the front of the stage. I was thinking of sending that "grouped" aux to the PC to monitor the sound up front. My question is how it would sound. technically, it would have my guitar(helix) coming through the l6link with it's sound, then the "grouped" sound coming into the input 2. Wonder what that would do to the guitar sound? And, it wouldn't really tell me the FOH level of my guitar because it would have the l6link level coming out. Sorry for the long ramble.... just wondering if anyone else has done this.

I have helix floor to pc112+ by l6link. I found I like the sound coming from the pc xlr to FOH better than the sound from the helix xlr to FOH. seems smoother. the problem is i have the big knob set to digital, so it changes the volume of the pc, however that also seems to control what is sent to FOH. Someone please tell me there is a setting or something where I can have the max signal from the PC go to FOH without the helix big knob controlling what is sent to FOH. I guess after writing this, how would the PC know what level to send??? so, I hope there is something that can be done.

good to know the LT is not as flimsy as it seems! I had two HD500x's and now the Floor. The LT was (seemed) not as heavy duty as either of those.

I had the lt for a few years, I traded it in and the floor. The ability to have 10 stomps and the ruggedness of the floor are what made me change. The LT was good, I just missed those extra stomps (yes, I compensated with snapshots but it wasn't the same). The LT also seemed a little flimsy to me. The floor is Much more rugged IMO.

just wanted to say.... what a great post!

I had the same problem with the lt. I put in a ticket and shipped it to them. they just sent me mine back and it seems to be working. good luck.

Yes, thank you for the response. That is a good video. Unfortunately, it's the mode and the tap tempo buttons I would want to switch :)

Is there a way on the helix floor to make it go back to stomp mode after you change banks when you are in 10 stomp mode. The way it works now is when I am in 10 stomp mode, to change presets, I have to hit "mode" which shows the bank up and down on button 1,7... then hit bank up (or down)... and then select the preset. It then shows the snapshots (and banks) instead of going back to stomp mode. I have to click mode again to get to stomp mode.... I have to hit 4 buttons just to change presets when I am in 10 stomp mode. It works like I want when in 8 stomp mode, but not 10 stomp mode. Is there a way around this? If not, is there a way to swap the mode button 6, with the tap tuner button 12? that would help. thanks.

If I am reading your question correctly, you have different levels in ONE preset and you want to change the overall volume of that preset and let your different scenes(snapshots) change proportionally based on the change in the over all preset. If it is just for that one preset, you could adjust the volume using the big knob on the helix (you probably knew that and that's not what you want). You could change the level of your last output block. That would lower or make louder the preset and your snapshots would change proportionate to the change in the output block. Using the output block keeps you from having to add a gain block right before the output block and leaves that spot free for something else.

I have a 212+ and a 112+. When home, I stack them. I have my helix set so the big knob is set to digital. I use the L6link to connect the helix and the two pc's. You do have to set the pc's volumes manual to get them the same volume, but then you can use the big knob (on helix) to turn both up and down. That works for me.

Had the hiss/no sound happen to me as well. I use Helix lt ->L6Link-> PC+212->L6Link->PC+112. It hissed, then the 112+ stopped making sounds. Rebooted everything and all is well.

I should have mentioned I'm using the l6link from helix to PC. I have never done anything with Midi before, but I will try. I think I have a cable somewhere. Would I have BOTH L6link and Midi connected at the same time? I had read somewhere about the HF driver not working correctly, their fix was to create the patch on the PC. Thank you. I will give this a try!

First, I'm venting... very sorry! I have a helix lt, with a PC 212+ and a PC 112+. I was going to use the 212 for bigger gigs and the 112 for smaller gigs and practice. I have had line 6 stuff since the pod 2.0 and have loved everything. played for years with a dt25 and HD500x. The Dt25 was flakey, but sounded great when it worked. I got a helix right before covid, so I have only used it out maybe 6 times. I just got the PC's a few months ago and have used them 3 or 4 times. I play a little bit of everything, but the really heavy stuff (that scares me :)) I will go back and forth between stacking the cabs, leaning both cabs back, or just using one of the two. I play (mainly fiddle with settings) for at least 2 to 3 hours everynight... really. I heard about the HF problem, so I saved a new patch on each PC called PTB Raw. I was using the LF Raw. I play a Les Paul, tele, and a yamaha ES 2??? (hollow body electric with soapboxes).... It was sounding great. I just got back from out of town, and it sounds like the speakers are blown, (I don't think they are)..... it sound horrible. I tried all 3 guitars, tried one or both of the PC's, tried using different speaker models on the PC, going back to LF Raw.... all sound very brittle and very harsh... especially with the cabs leaned back (I know I am getting a more direct hit from the speaker then) One other thing.... I have ALWAYS used the ampeg 1x15 cab..... even going into the LF Raw. That was sounding nice and smooth last week. This is probably a different discussion, but the 1x15 cab is the only way I could smooth out the helix. I tried all the cabs, and they all sounded too brittle. Ok, so some one tell which button to press to make it sound good again :) .... as I said, I'm venting :0 thanks for getting this far!

be careful with output of the asparagus model!

sorry if stupid question. I have the 112+ and then got a 212+ and use them both. either stacked or leaned back. I use the helix 1x15 ampeg cab for EVERYTHING.... always have, even when I had the dt25 ... and when going straight to FOH. when playing out, I use go from the helix to FOH and digital to the 212+ then digital from the 212+ to the 112+. The PC in helix is set to global, lf raw. Both PC's are on preset 000? (flat). Does this mean the HF driver is on in the 212 but not in the 112? How can I tell if the HF driver is on? is there that big of a difference in the sound .... if you are using the helix cab? Thanks... just trying to better understand if/how this affects me.

I love the way it sounds stacked. I go back and forth between stacked and both back on their kick stands. I believe stacked is best.

I have a PC112+ and a 212+. I stack the 112 on the 212 and yes, the 212 volume knob is hard to get to. When playing at home, I will get the initial volume matched by manually turning both knobs... but after that, if I need to turn it down, I will use the master knob on the Helix. this controls both the 112 and the 212. Yes, it does decrease the signal a bit, so you might not see yellow, but for playing from home, this lets me turn down if my wife yells at me :) (she really never yells and is a good sport). so that may be one option for you.

I would like to do two things in command center: 1. have the bank up button (#1) actually go up to the next bank whenever I select it. Now, when I select it, it shows the current bank of presets for me to select a preset. I would like to to go to the next two banks (i.e. I am on banks 1&2 ... I step on the bank up button and I want to see banks 3&4). 2. I would like it to mimic the behavior of clicking the bank up and down buttons at the same time. Now, it will temporarily change from stomp to snapshot mode... when I select a snapshot, it activates what's in the snapshot AND goes back to stomp mode. This is different than the mode button. The mode button will stay in stomp or snapshot mode until you hit the mode button again. I usually am in stomp mode. I have snapshots to set different delay settings and/or reverb settings. I use the snapshot bypass on to keep the snapshot from changing blocks I do not want changed. This way, in stomp mode I have 8 buttons for stuff, then can hit both the up and down buttons and temporarily have access to the 8 snapshots, then it goes back to the stomps. I hope that is not confusing the way I wrote it :). So my wish is to have a button that goes into what I call "temporary snapshot" mode that lets me select a snapshot and then go back to stomps. I can do this now, but I have to hit two buttons at once. I am not that talented :) I am open to suggestions... or a different way to approach this. I have the Helix lt and I really could use those two extra buttons in stomp mode that the Helix has.

Ok, are we saying the Master volume is the BIG knob on the helix or the Master volume on the amp block? The big knob does not change the tone... just the volume going out. The Master Volume (maybe called something else?) on the amp block does change the tone.

I believe you are incorrect. If I am reading what you are saying. The Master volume for the amp controls how much distortion from the power amp vs the preamp... at 10, more from the amp, lower is more from the preamp. I may be doing it wrong, but I use the Master volume to set the sound, and the channel volume to match volume levels between patches.

I posted something kind of like this several weeks ago. about what to set you output level on the helix. I downloaded one of the loudness meters JS talks about and I set my patches so they peak around 12 and stay around 23. I have my big knob set to digital, so that means it is only controlling my powercab or my dt25. the xlr and 1/4 outputs are at max output level. I normally have the big knob also maxed out and adjust the "loudness" on the powercab. The xlr and 1/4 outputs get set by the trim on the board. There used to be a thing where to get the best signal to noise ratio, you wanted as much signal going into the power amp as you could. Otherwise, if you had a weak signal into the amp, turned the amp louder, whatever noise coming from your guitar, etc. would be amplified when you turned the amp up. I don't know if that is as true as it used to be in the digital world, but I am pretending that it is :). The thing that has really worked the best for me was downloading that loudness meter and using that to set my patches. The meters on the helix are about 65% to 85%.

Wow.... you must be smart. You use big words AND Numbers! :) Just kidding, seriously wish I understood more of that. My question on the 212 vs 112 is weight. I know it must be heavier, but how does it compare to a dt25 (which I am replacing because it is so fragile, but so nice)? Hopefully I will be gigging again and play small bars and when lucky enough, mid to small theaters. I think the 212 would be too much for the small bars but would be perfect for the other.