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I'll give that a try tonight, thanks! Any reason to not just pan the mixer strip you setup for each of the left/right guitars, unroute them from the master, then route to another mix for stereo effects? I've only fiddled with the stereo shaper a little but, so I'm not sure what it brings to the table vs just panning each mixer strip as needed.

Well it worked, but with extra steps. I used the DiscreteDuo template in templates/other, recorded my two mono tracks, then routed them to channel 3 where helix is. The tracks were still panned up the middle, even when I set the audio clips themselves to be panned. Next I routed the first guitar clip to channel 4, the second clip to channel five and then routed them both to channel three where helix was. Finally, both clips were hard panned. Good lord that's round about way to get where I was going. From what I read in the manual, helix can only do stereo panning with stereo inputs.

Thanks, I'll give that a try tonight!

As the world turns. I figured out why I though the dual amp patch wasn't panning guitars and it's because helix splits everu track left/right to both amp patches. It sounded stereo and it was, but each of the two mono tracks sent to helix are split left and right. If I mute one track I still hear guitar out of both speaker, although they are running the different amps I have set, hard panned left/right. The screen shot shows two recorded audio clips, with one muted. Audio clip 1 is panned hard left and routed to mixer track one. Normally I would route the audio clip into mixer track 2 where helix is, but I put it on 1 and the routed 1 to 2 so you can see the VU meters. As you can see, the helix output VU meters show audio in both output channels, even though the helix input shows audio in the left side only. This screen shot 2 is the same thing, but with the amp sim turned off. I get the same behavior if I disabledhelix native plugin in the effects rack on the far right. Once the amp sim is disabled, my audio signal now only plays through the left channel as expected. The only way I can get multiple guitar tracks to pan l/r with FL studio is to run multiple instances on helix native on different mixer tracks, then pan those track. Not exactly what I'm trying to do here. It's also been suggested to use a stereo input when I record, which I can do but the guitar signal from my audio interface only comes out of one channel (no big surprise). Here's a link to the full version of FL (demo). I'd really appreciate it if someone else could try and see if I'm right, wrong or confused! :) https://www.image-line.com/downloads/flstudiodownload.html

Some good news. I was able to get a dual amp patch to work. Not sure what I did wrong the first time, but now I can record individual mono tracks, run them through helix and as long as I have the host outputs panned in helix, the audio comes through as expected. Now if I can just figure out a way to do the same on a single amp patch.

I record individual mono tracks on a dry channel and then route them through the channel that has helix native after recording. The key with podfarm is the mixer section where there is a left/right pan knob for each side. Panning that allows me to pan any track routed through podfarm. Helix native has a single pan control on the host output. I can pan that way, but then all clips running through native are panned the same direction. The helix manual shows some other daws that allow for a mono input with a stereo output (rather than summed mono) which seems like that may be the ticket, but I don't think fl offer that's. I'll check on their help forum as well. In any case I've even made dual channel patches and then hard panned the output for each of those channels in native, but the results are the same. Multiple mono audio clips can't but panned differently in fl studio using helix native.

If I could ask any of you fine folks that use helix native to record for a little help. Are you able to record two dry guitars tracks in your daw, run them through a single instance of helix native, pan those two clips hard left/right and have them sound panned when playing back? I'm kind of pulling my hair out trying to get this working for me in fl. Right now the only way I figure out how to do what I want is to have helix native running on two channels, pan each of those channels left/right, then route one dry guitar track to one channel and one to the other.

Here are screen shots with podfarm and native. I have one clip, hard panned left. Each vst is set with a signle, amp only patch. Podfarm passes the panning as expceted, while native creates a stereo output signal. https://photos.app.goo.gl/vPOe0tzrC4Xduz0q1

I'm normally use podfarm for recording and I have no problems hard panning guitars left and right. I can do so with either with a single or dual amp patch. Not so much with helix. Everything I've tried seems to have guitars right up the middle, even though after recording I pan each individual track hard left and hard right. Can anyone point me to the relevant section of the manual to explain?

Yep, you are correct about me not using the app. Sorry for the derail :)

I'm not sure how the fishman would work with helix native. As stated earlier, the triple play is a midi pickup that send midi data derived from notes played on your electric guitar. the midi signal is routed to a vst that is capable of accepting midi inputs. Helix native processes audio signals, not midi input. I have the tripleplay btw. I use it in my daw to trigger midi synths.

Yea, and as long as we're talking about the editor it would be great to be able to drag presets and create dual amp tones from an existing patch. I can drag a single saved tone over, but it seemed like I should be able to drag another tone over and make a dual channel patch. I'm still getting used to how helix editor routes, so maybe there's already an easier but different way to accomplish that.

Yes, that's the exact issue. I used the amp/combo block but when I switch the block to a head block, it changes all my settings. Not a huge deal, but it's a bit of a mind shift from pod farm, which I'm used to. I would be nice though to be able to do that.

I have some patches I like that are built around an amp/cab combo. I would like to try the same amp settings with some of my impulse responses without creating a new amp head patch with the same settings. Is there a way to turn off the cab? I can't seem to find a way to do that.

Has any info on what the discount for podfarm 2.0 users will be?

I see how to do it in the ipad version, but I don't see a way to start a new, from scratch and totally blank tone using the android software. Not sure if it's there and I dont' see it, or if it's not there :)

I've worked in a large company for a couple decades. Software release dates are always announced in good faith but they are never met (or very rarely). There no malice or deception involved. Just hold ye water and it will be here before long...

Here's the email if anyone is interested. fwiw, the line 5 team looks like a typo in the body of the message. Pretty sure not a phishing scam :) http://email.line6.com/v/i7VL0TBk32a00w000Pg0N00

I got one today from the "line 5 products team" :) Hopefully they get enough feedback about the alt tuning problems many of us have experienced.

Last I heard on another forum was sometime this spring.

Sorry, I just saw this. No, I never found a way to fix it.

Never thought to try that. Thanks for the tip.

Or very close to it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD4Eur2BVbU

Good video and I agree with you on the acoustics, for the most part. One question for you, who position did you have the tone control set for the acoustics? I found the least amount of ambiance with the tone on 10, with more being rolled in as the tone control is turned down.

I like these ideas. It would be great having the piezo only signal, that way we could experiment with acoustic guitar IR's (among other things).