stratchamp Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 So whenever I use two amps in a patch on the HD500, I am unable to pan them hard left and right for true stereo sound. I have the inputs setup like this: Input 1, Guitar; Input 2, Same. Both channels in the mixer are set at 0db, which is default. The left channel, or amp "a", will pan all the way left like it should, but the right channel, amp "b", will not pan hard right like it should. I remember when I first purchased the HD500 they would pan hard left and right just fine, but now they will not. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratchamp Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 just in case, are you using 2 cables to connect your POD outputs to the mixer, and also are both cables ok? Actually, I was talking about the internal mixer in the HD500. But yes, I have two cables connected to the left and right outputs of the pod going into a small mixer that is able to run stereo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratchamp Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 ok, then, if you HD500 mixer pan settings are set as you want (hard L and R for path A an B respectively) for me it means the problem is in the connections to your external mixer or in its settings I don't think the external mixer I'm connecting it to is the problem, because even when I connect the headphones the "phones" output on the pod, the problem still exists. I think I'm going to try a factory reset and see if that fixes the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratchamp Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 It didn't seem to help at all. Oh well, I'll just stick with panning to center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Are you sure it's not something in your signal chain after the mixer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astaroth_CY Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Just create a new tone from scratch and use two different amp models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazuwa Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 For checking you can attach your preset (under More Reply Options). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratchamp Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 Ok, I'll attach my preset when I get a chance later today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratchamp Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 It says I am "not permitted to upload this kind of file" when trying to upload my HD500 preset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasterdude Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I use POD HD with dual signals panned hard left and right all the time. Need to check your blocks. If you have a drive before the amps it may sum to mono, as does other effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasterdude Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 This doc should help determine which of your FX are summing to mono. http://line6.com/support/servlet/JiveServlet/previewBody/2099-102-1-4356/Stereo%20Preserving%20FX%20%28HD500%29.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratchamp Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 I appreciate the help, but even without using any effects it still won't pan left and right like it should. The patch I am trying to upload has the twin reverb on channel "a", and the Hiwatt on channel "b." Both are the same volume and are panned left and right respectively. I have input 1 guitar, and input 2 "same." So with those settings and the pan knobs 100% left and right, the sound is still in the center. I know it's not my headphones because music will play just fine in stereo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astaroth_CY Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Please explain how you have verified that panning right is not working. E.g. have you tried muting one or the other channel and seeing which side has signal? You need to explain exactly how you are identifying your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazuwa Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Hi Stratchamp. Please post your preset. Before you attach the file you must rename the file extender from .h5e to .pdf or so! You can also upload it temporarily in Customtone and give us the link. Later you can delete the file again from Customtone. Then we will see if your preset is ok. If it is then you can try a firmware reflash without keeping your presets, finally do a Global Reset and Pedal Calibration, and finally take a look at at your System settings (ps: Factory Reset is only in HD300/400). If you do so, you should not forget to save all your presets over HD500 Edit as a bundle before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratchamp Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 Ok, here is the patch. It's just a basic dual amp setup with no other effects added. Even with the pan controls left and right, it still is dead center through my headphones. Feel free to make any adjustments if I am not doing it correctly. Remember, I am trying to get amp "a" to pan hard left and amp "b" to pan hard right for a separate stereo sound. Thanks for the help so far. Dual Amp Test.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazuwa Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Hi Stratchamp, Your preset is o.k.. My Pod HD 500 does pan hard left and hard right with your file, so I can hear amp 1 only left side, and amp 2 only on right side. Please save your presets as a bundle over HD500 Edit software, then do a Global Reset and Pedal Calibration. http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2222 http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2223 If this doesn't help then do a firmware reflash saying NOT to keep your presets, then again Global Reset and Pedal Calibration. Ps.: You amp's volume knobs here are not loud enough. You can turn the volume knobs higher. I'd say at least 50%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratchamp Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 Hi Stratchamp, Your preset is o.k.. My Pod HD 500 does pan hard left and hard right with your file, so I can hear amp 1 only left side, and amp 2 only on right side. Please save your presets as a bundle over HD500 Edit software, then do a Global Reset and Pedal Calibration. http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2222 http://line6.com/support/docs/DOC-2223 If this doesn't help then do a firmware reflash saying NOT to keep your presets, then again Global Reset and Pedal Calibration. Ps.: You amp's volume knobs here are not loud enough. You can turn the volume knobs higher. I'd say at least 50%. Thanks, I'll try a reset and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratchamp Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 I reset the firmware on my pod, did a global reset, and calibrated the expression pedal. After messing around, I found that when using two clean amps in stereo, it sounds like it is center. When using two medium gain amps in stereo, I get the separation that I want. Thanks again for the help. Mods can mark this thread as "solved." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astaroth_CY Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Sigh. I wish people would go through some obvious troubleshooting by themselves before coming here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akshayahlawat Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 So did this help? Because I am having the same problem with my Pod HD400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astaroth_CY Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 So did this help? Because I am having the same problem with my Pod HD400.Yes, read the top of this page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrillingTwo Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 This happened with a patch of mine tonight. I actually have a couple of others with the same issue, I just decided to try to solve this one tonight. Anyway, after I did the obvious settings checks, mono-sum, etc., still couldn't figure out why it would not spread out. I had 2 empty FX blocks at the end of my chain so I dragged one behind the amp in Ch A and Bang! There they were, both channels panned hard in both the left and right sides. I don't get it. But it works now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKEY9966 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Same thing is capping to me after work great for over two years one amp works one dose not paning dose not work I will try this when I get home but its strange after all this time this happens, , any sugestions thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKEY9966 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Sigh. I wish people would go through some obvious troubleshooting by themselves before coming here... Well that's what the frorm is for some time people help the help maybe you should go read something else if this makes you upset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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