mlipping Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hey, Sorry if this has been covered before and I'm just missing it but I have a problem with my UX2 and Mixraft 7 playback. I have no issues with set up (I'm sure this is not the case) and adding effects to tracks with Pod Farm while recording, or playing back when UX2 is plugged in. When I go to play the saved track back in non asio settings, my PF effects just come out as dry. Surly you must be able to playback without the UX2 and asio engaged. It's just PF because I've added and recorded effects with included and other added vst's. Also........ When I'm recording my input the track display doesn't have the 'lines' that go up and down with the input, ie it's just a straight black line, it doesn't react like the normal meter does. Hopefully this all makes sense and someone can point me in the right direction, I'm sure it's something simple I'm overlooking but I just can't figure it out. Thanks! P.S. Attached is a screenshot to show the tracks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 the license is owned by and tied to the UX2... no UX2=no license=won't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 So there's no way to record a track using the UX2 and not be able to play it back with that effect/s? So, it can be mixed down and recorded as long as you have the UX2 then it can be converted? Sorry for the ignorance....... New at this and running into small walls at every turn. Any idea why my signal, both wet and dry and has no lines/recording input in the tracks? All of my settings are correct as far as I can tell......... Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 you can record wet and dry on different tracks... but to use pod farm you need the device plugged in... or to buy a standalone pod farm license. So there's no way to record a track using the UX2 and not be able to play it back with that effect/s? So, it can be mixed down and recorded as long as you have the UX2 then it can be converted? Sorry for the ignorance....... New at this and running into small walls at every turn. Any idea why my signal, both wet and dry and has no lines/recording input in the tracks? All of my settings are correct as far as I can tell......... Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 I get that, and thanks. But I'm just confused by the fact that if I record something it should stay the way I recorded it. I shouldn't have to have the UX2 plugged in to listen to what I've recorded........ I'm pretty sure that I've been able to record onto other DAW and having it record my wet signal and kept it even without UX2 being plugged in....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 if you recorded it wet, it shouldn't matter... perhaps the removal of the UX2 is also changing or not changing your audio card setup... and the tracks are trying to play through the removed device? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Right, it shouldn't matter, what I record should be captured wet or dry.......... All of my settings are correct and I switched I/O when I unplugged UX2....... I've got a ticket in with Acoustica so hoping it's an easy fix....... Recording tracks just being a flat line makes me think I have a software issue........ I'll let you know and thanks for the input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 well... you said it wouldn't play effects with the UX2 unplugged... meaning if it was recorded dry... you would hear it dry on playback if the pod farm license was disabled... if you record the wet track... then you would hear your effects and all when pod farm was disabled... this is what i was getting at... and it's a 100% certain reason that whether you record wet or dry DOES matter.... however... if you're saying you're not getting any output... then it's probably a configuration change in mixcraft taking place when it doesn't find the expected interface (UX2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Sounds to me like you are recording silence. What are your source inputs for the track(s) you are recording? Do you have the recording input levels set properly, both in the UX2 (mic level) and in mixcraft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 I have it set up to record through UX2 and get the wet signal through the tracks effects menu so I know the Pod dll is there and operating. When I attempted to play track back without UX2 it said that the effect wouldn't have the effect without UX2 plugged in. Silverhead, yes I have all I/0 set properly and am recording. I don't have any problems with other dll files in Mixcraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Just to reiterate, you can record wet and dry simultaneous, regardless of what you are hearing while recording. A typical workflow with the UX is to record 2 stereo tracks (4 tracks), 2 receive the dry signal, 2 receive the wet signal, you can then add the PF plug-in to the dry signal post processing. One advantage of this is you can get your tracks down without worrying if your tone is tweaked to perfection. Yes, you can mix it down. If you do have projects were the plug-in is used and you want to be able to play it back with the effects and models but without the UX, you should be able to "freeze" the tracks while you have access to the UX, afterwards you will not need the UX during playback. Do you see waveforms while you are recording? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'm getting waveforms but they're just flat lines! I put the same question up on Mixcraft forum and a thought is that the software has some sort of glitch. It should record wet and should play back whatever is recorded, wet or dry. Also the waveform flatline is a complete mystery as it's just my input and no other of their sounds, beats, vst etc. Going to do the complete (re) install as soon as I hear back from their support....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Well a flat line is not a wavewform. Are you selecting the UX as your device in Mixcraft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 I mean the flat lines in the recording track. And yes I've got the UX2 selected....... It records fine, it just won't play back the recorded pod farm effect......... When I record with the MC effects it records and plays back wet and dry. The flat line in the track is only for UX2 input, MC beats, VST etc are normal, see screenshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 I mean all beats, loops and virtual instruments have much more than flat lines in the track bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I mean the flat lines in the recording track. And yes I've got the UX2 selected....... It records fine, it just won't play back the recorded pod farm effect......... When I record with the MC effects it records and plays back wet and dry. The flat line in the track is only for UX2 input, MC beats, VST etc are normal, see screenshot. If your recorded track is a flat line then it is NOT recording properly. A flat line with no visible waveform indicates silence. That's what you appear to be recording, meaning that mixcraft is not receiving an input signal from the UX2 at the time of recording so it is recording the silence it is receiving. From what you describe, I think that: - either there is a problem with your input settings in mixcraft. It is not being properly directed to use the UX2 as its record input source; or - there is a hardware problem with your UX2 and it needs servicing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Here's a test that should help the diagnosis. Step 1: Record a track with your current setup, playing your guitar or singing into your mic, or whatever it is you are trying to record. When finished, stop the recording. Step 2: Keep the exact same setup as above. Set up a new track for recording. Start recording, but this time do not play your guitar, and do not speak/sing into the mic. Intentionally record silence for the same duration as you recorded in step 1. Step 3: Compare the two recorded tracks. Do the waveforms look the same? Do the playbacks exhibit the same behaviour? Is there any detectable difference in the two tracks? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. If there is some difference, describe it for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Also, I dry guitar signal from the UX may appear flat relative to other tracks, but I don't think that is the case here. I do think it is a configuration issue, when you are selecting the UX as your device, does it indicate ASIO? And just for clarification, in POD Farm Standalone, you know how to configure the 4 sends? Are you enabling the 4 available inputs from the UX in Mixcraft? I remember one time having an issue getting my PODxt to record in Reaper, even though the previous session everything was fine. Turned out I had armed my track to record the PODxt MIDI. Oops!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Also make sure you are selecting the appropriate source(s) (guitar or mic) in POD Farm for Path A and/or path B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 First off, thanks guys. My settings seem to be fine. I have UX2 set up in MC as asio. I'll double check the UX2 settings but I'm sure they're fine, I say this because when I play guitar or Mic vocals, I get a solid signal in the track # box, in the master and in the 'sound' tab which shows the individual track. And......... It records and plays back fine. If it is a hardware issue with UX2 would it just be limited to the sine wave in the track? I'm going to try a couple things tonight. I'll try on another computer and I'll try another DAW demo on my machine. That should tell me if it's the UX2. Though I doubt that a hardware issue would affect just the lines in the track and not in the input bars in track and in master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 And just for clarification, in POD Farm Standalone, you know how to configure the 4 sends? Are you enabling the 4 available inputs from the UX in Mixcraft? I remember one time having an issue getting my PODxt to record in Reaper, even though the previous session everything was fine. Turned out I had armed my track to record the PODxt MIDI. Oops!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Just so I'm positive, do you have a screen shot of this? That's the settings with driver, inputs and recording and MIDI tabs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I am referring to the sends in PF2 mixer view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 I'll double check when I get home. But if I am getting signal in track and master, and am able to record, would just the sine lines be affected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Thanks Triryche! I'm half way there! I have the wavforms at much better levels. Now the only problem is getting MC to play the wet signal when the UX2 isn't plugged in....... Attached are my current settings and I think it's somewhere to do with this...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Thanks Triryche! I'm half way there! I have the wavforms at much better levels. Now the only problem is getting MC to play the wet signal when the UX2 isn't plugged in....... Attached are my current settings and I think it's somewhere to do with this...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 your default recording device is 1/2 unprocessed/dry hence no processing without license/device. that can be your default... what you select as the input for each track is what really matters... processed/wet sound is input 3/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Okay....... So at the risk of not being a complete bother........ How should I set it up so I can hear my wet Podfarm tracks without the UX2 being plugged in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 just make the default recording input 3/4 since you don't appear to be using pod farm as a plugin... that's likely the ticket for the workflow you're seemingly going to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 +1 to Zap. If you record wet, it will always be wet. It's only the plug-in (launches from within MC as a VST) that would require the UX to be recognized. Also, don't worry about the Line6 Audio-MIDI control panel settings, they are overridden when running PF standalone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Gotcha. Thanks guys! Last night was doing settings in stand alone, closing, then opening PF in vst menu. So if I'm in stand alone, I default to 3/4 in MC and I'll be good for playback without UX2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Pretty much, just check the mixer view to ensure 3/4 is Tone A+B. Also, as I stated before, if you did have projects where you used the PF plug-in's, you could freeze those trax in MC while the UX is connect, then will not need it after the fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Mixer view in PF or MC? Also, I'm running PF1 and don't have that A/B switch........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 In Pod Farm. I think in POD Farm 1, the default for sends 1/2 are processed. Either way, check the mixer view in POD Farm, and which ever sends are processed, or that you set to be processed, use those as inputs in MC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlipping Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 YAY!!!!!!!! All my problems are solved!!!!!!! Thank you so much Triryche and Zap! Everyone else too! Wave forms normal and when I record wet through UX2 stand alone on 3/4 and have MC track set to 3/4 I can play back without UX2 being involved! Plus, through all of this I have learned a bunch! Thanks again! Now I can record my crap with no limitations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agb1954 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I've been asking Line 6 support for a couple months now on how to separate the UX2 from podfarm (disable podfarm sounds yet still use the mixer) so I can just use the UX2 as an audio interface without podfarm and they have yet to answer my question. Can someone here help me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 you simply dont open pod farm? you can adjust the inputs in the control panel/system prefs there must be more to the story.... where are you getting stuck? what you are asking is simpler than using the UX2 with pod farm...... I've been asking Line 6 support for a couple months now on how to separate the UX2 from podfarm (disable podfarm sounds yet still use the mixer) so I can just use the UX2 as an audio interface without podfarm and they have yet to answer my question. Can someone here help me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agb1954 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 you simply dont open pod farm? you can adjust the inputs in the control panel/system prefs there must be more to the story.... where are you getting stuck? what you are asking is simpler than using the UX2 with pod farm...... How do I access the UX2 mixer section without opening up podfarm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agb1954 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I want to use the UX2 interface alone, without opening up podfarm, and use the software mixer section of the UX2 to control my inputs and outputs of the UX2. Is this possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 use your recording software (DAW) to do the mixing options... there's no need to open pod farm for anything.... if you need to adjust inputs.. either do so by making changes in your DAW or by accessing the line6 audio midi applet in your control panel or sys prefs. you absolutely do not need pod farm or its mixer functionality to use the UX2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigChas52 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I want to use the UX2 interface alone, without opening up podfarm, and use the software mixer section of the UX2 to control my inputs and outputs of the UX2. Is this possible? You can select the inputs without opening POD Farm by selecting the your UX2 as the ASIO input from within your recording software. After you do that, there should be an option for ASIO configuration (it's called different things in different recording programs) on the same screen. You can select the inputs from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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