Rocco_Crocco Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 forum members being allowed to comment or make tips/suggestions on Customtone uploads. It would help newbies learn the ins and outs of tone seeking and would improve the user experience, IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CipherHost Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 forum members being allowed to comment or make tips/suggestions on Customtone uploads. It would help newbies learn the ins and outs of tone seeking and would improve the user experience, IMHO. Do you mean other member's tones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It is good in theory. But, I think the application of it would be a bigger nuisance than benefit. A better way than a public comment, would be for private messages to be sent. But even that would cause problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Crocco Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Do you mean other member's tones? Yes. I guess I am envisioning each CustomeTone page to be like a thread, where people could comment on the original patch, and even tweak it and upload the changes into the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Crocco Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 It is good in theory. But, I think the application of it would be a bigger nuisance than benefit. A better way than a public comment, would be for private messages to be sent. But even that would cause problems. Do you mean it would cause trolling? I could see that but the trolls are always out from under the bridge in threads, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CipherHost Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Yes. I guess I am envisioning each CustomeTone page to be like a thread, where people could comment on the original patch, and even tweak it and upload the changes into the thread. Although it could get massive, a good database query interface would make it more manageable and user friendly. It could include specific,searchable categories for particular guitars, pickups, amps, L6 usernames, artists, bands, output modes, etc. Good idea Rocco! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Do you mean it would cause trolling? I could see that but the trolls are always out from under the bridge in threads, anyway. Yes, but not just that. How many times do you see people say "I am afraid to post because of what you people may say" -- so, using that same way of thinking, could you imagine the tones that won't be posted because someone is afraid of possibly hearing criticism. PLUS, since you specifically said 'for newbs to hear suggestions" --- that is a bad idea. You see it all the time in posts. Using different speakers causes it to sound different. Using different pickups, strings, picks, playing technique -- it all results in different tone. So, for you to ask me "How does my Slash patch sound", it will never sound the same as it does at your place because I fingerpick a Rickenbacker. Don't get me wrong. I often wonder what people think of tones, and think a comment section would help. But I think any time you let people speak, things become totally different. Although it could get massive, a good database query interface would make it more manageable and user friendly. It could include specific,searchable categories for particular guitars, pickups, amps, L6 usernames, artists, bands, output modes, etc. Good idea Rocco! CT already allows you to fill in information like that about your own tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CipherHost Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 CT already allows you to fill in information like that about your own tone. The idea was not so much about posting, but searching. If someone wanted to search for a patch that included all of the following with one query. Studio/Direct output mode EMG 81 pickups Brit J-800 DT25 Just one example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorbeats Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 That search would be nice, however filling all fields when posting the tone would be required, otherwise only 5% of the tones would have the info. Pull downs ideal to keep the kiddies from putting in non-guitar words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 The idea was not so much about posting, but searching. Right, but what you fill in can already be searched. So, even though there isn't a specific pickup slot, you can put EMG 81 in any spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CipherHost Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 That search would be nice, however filling all fields when posting the tone would be required, otherwise only 5% of the tones would have the info. Pull downs ideal to keep the kiddies from putting in non-guitar words. Pull down boxes is what I was thinking, like in Access or Excel. I have not had a chance to use it yet, but my understanding is the HD500Lister program creates a text file of the "ingredients" of a patch. Since you can't comment on your patch until after you upload it, some of the fields could be auto populated for the user, like the amp and any other patch based info. So if you wanted examples of patches that used U-Vibe or Obi-Wah, you could easily find them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CipherHost Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Right, but what you fill in can already be searched. So, even though there isn't a specific pickup slot, you can put EMG 81 in any spot. I tried doing a search in CT with different operands and operators without success. Maybe I was using the wrong syntax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 That assumes someone put in the terms you're looking for. And yes, if you did something like that, A drop box would be best. I plaid the gitar with seemores in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CipherHost Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 That assumes someone put in the terms you're looking for. I used FRFR and got results. I used DT25 and got results. FRFR DT25, no results. FRFR + DT25, no results. FRFR AND DT25, no results. "FRFR" "DT25", no results. "FRFR" AND "DT25", no results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I don't know if FRFR is a term widely used outside of forums and advertising. I can't say that I recall anyone ever using it in conversation -- hey man, your frfr sounds really hot. BUT, if you put EMG into CTsearch I found 559 results. Seymour Duncan gives 266. Like I said, your idea of being able to add more information - particularly from a drop down box to make sure spellings and model names are proper. Until that day occurs, you can still search what people manually input. It's the other guy, the one that wants to let users critique tones, that is what I don't think is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Crocco Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 To me this would be an excellent learning tool.. benefits far outweighing the disadvantages. I newbie could post a patch, asking for feedback. Another member could download it, listen, tweak and resubmit it. Saying something like "it sounded good, but with my set-up, I added a parametric eq and boosted the lows a bit and it sounds better". Of course people have different PU's, monitors, amps, etc. People usually already know to take that into account. My experience, however, is that a good patch through humbuckers and an FRFR rig will still sound pretty good on another guitar with humbuckers and a different FRFR rig. It may need a little tweaking but not much. Regardless, the way Customtone is set up now leaves NO mechanism for feedback other than the star rating, which is pretty nonspecific. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 There is a 'settings' section of the forum. Do you think that discussing settings and putting up 10 different versions of the same file would be better posted there instead of CT? On CT, I would be more willing to have a 'comment' section so that we see which ones are good, more than I would want it to teach new people how to do files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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