cdiddy5000 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Is it just me, or are the rotary FX really not that great on the helix? I truthfully haven't spent more than a couple hours tweaking the unit, but I hoped that I would be able to get something relatively easy out of the box. I am a huge fan of the rotary sounds from the strymon möbius and would prefer to get everything out of one box if possible. Any tips from more experienced users? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 LOVE the 145 and the Fender model, too. You have to run OFF your speaker sim or IR for this, though. Had a real 145. This is a good sim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Yes, disable your cab/IR when running the rotary, or run it in parallel to your cab/IR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdiddy5000 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 LOVE the 145 and the Fender model, too. You have to run OFF your speaker sim or IR for this, though. Had a real 145. This is a good sim. Sorry, but did you mean to say you have to turn off the cabinets sim? This is something I definitely did not think about. I will give this a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdiddy5000 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Thank you for the clarification. This probably would've been a better thing to put in the cabinet section as opposed to the modulation group. It definitely would have made it more obvious. My mentality was to put it in line somewhere in the chain as I do with the Strymon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricstudioc Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Another "real deal" owner, here - a modified 125. And I agree with the above, shut down other cab sims/IR's and just use the rotary. A little tweaking and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. ... o'course, having said that, I DO own a real one and come studio tracking time out she comes!! But it dates from 1959, and weighs like 90+ pounds, so the sim is a godsend for live work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdiddy5000 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 What do you recommend that the rotary cabinet gets placed after the amplifier? Sounds like a dumb question as I ask… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricstudioc Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 What do you recommend that the rotary cabinet gets placed after the amplifier? Sounds like a dumb question as I ask… Yup - tho keep in mind that most of the (pleasant?) guitar-leslie tones are clean-to-slightly-overdriven, and you can get those from the sim itself - but personally I keep the gains on the sim low and feed it right from the amp. Been working for me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBTL Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I think there great. I find it good to turn the horn up a wee bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I've sometimes put a rotary in parallel with a cab, to add back a bit of top end. I've also tried lowering the mix control very slightly instead, letting a tiny bit of the raw amp sound with no cab sim through. Obviously you don't want a lot of that, it's kind of a slight of hand thing, not an organically righteous way to go, but the rotary comes off pretty dull to me without some sort of treatment. The VST rotaries I have are the same, probably because they're like that in real life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBTL Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I've sometimes put a rotary in parallel with a cab, to add back a bit of top end. I've also tried lowering the mix control very slightly instead, letting a tiny bit of the raw amp sound with no cab sim through. Obviously you don't want a lot of that, it's kind of a slight of hand thing, not an organically righteous way to go, but the rotary comes off pretty dull to me without some sort of treatment. The VST rotaries I have are the same, probably because they're like that in real life. Exactly what I do, just like Mr Gilmour does in real life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Good tips, y'all. Thanks! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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