HX Effects - No IR Loader block stereo

[ivanmongiardo]

Hi everybody.

I've just noticed that the IR loader block in Hx Effects is only a mono effect. So, if you feed it with stereo signal you will get a mono output with phasing/artifacts issues on sound.

This is very bad, expecially if you need a stereo image (i.e. double pitch effect, ping pong delay effect).. all the stereo effects are definetely useless if your last block is a IR loader.

Of course you can put a second IR loader in path B, but in this way you have to use 2 IR loaders at the same time and you are very limiteded in effects routing.

 I wonder why Line6 didn't implement a stereo IR loader block.. it would be a killer feature as it would solve a large number of problems.

 

[phil_m]

A stereo 2048 sample IR would eat up a lot of the available DSP. None of the Helix products run stereo IR blocks. In your situation why not just those effects after the IR block?

[codamedia]

3 hours ago, ivanmongiardo said:

Of course you can put a second IR loader in path B, but in this way you have to use 2 IR loaders at the same time and you are very limiteded in effects routing.

 

This shouldn't limit your routing. The worse case scenario should be that you have to use up 2 blocks. If DSP is an issue you could just load 2 x 1024 IR's.

 

I could be wrong about this... but I'm pretty sure that any stereo effect prior to the path split would just separate to left/right down the two paths. At the end of the path you will have to set the output pans to keep it stereo. 

[ivanmongiardo]

1 hour ago, phil_m said:

A stereo 2048 sample IR would eat up a lot of the available DSP. None of the Helix products run stereo IR blocks. In your situation why not just those effects after the IR block?

 

The HX Effects allows to use 2 mono 1024 sample IR or 1 mono 2048 sample IR. I don't see why I cannot use 1 stereo 1024+1024 sample IR. 

I cannot move those effects after the IR block because I'm running 4CM (with a dedicated send2 before the output ) and feeding the PA with IR at the same time. I would like to hear the effects also into the real cab and if I move the effects after the IR Loader I won't hear through my amp.  

 

14 minutes ago, codamedia said:

 

This shouldn't limit your routing. The worse case scenario should be that you have to use up 2 blocks. If DSP is an issue you could just load 2 x 1024 IR's.

 

I could be wrong about this... but I'm pretty sure that any stereo effect prior to the path split would just separate to left/right down the two paths. At the end of the path you will have to set the output pans to keep it stereo. 

 

Yes, you are right.. but I'm using loop1 and send2 blocks for 4CM and now I have to use 2 more blocks for IR loader with Y split routes.. The result is that I have only 5 blocks left (and no parallel routing as long as I have to use the Y splitter for the 2 IR blocks). So this is a hard limit to me..

If Line6 won't implement stereo IR, in this situation the only solution is to use a different device to load the IR and feed the PA.

 

Thanks anyway!