nstege Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Hey Everyone, First off I am new to these forums so I am sorry if this question has already been answered. I had a hard time finding an answer for it so I figured I would ask. I just recently bought a Line 6 Helix LT and it is on its way to me. I know you can use Helix as just a pedal board with effects through a tube amp via the "4CM" (Four Cable Method), and that would work for me when I jam with buddy's. But with my Fender Hot Rod Deville it is hard to play that in my bedroom and sound good. SO, finally to the question. I was just wondering if this is even possible I don't know? Can I take my Fender amp "head" and unplug it from the 4-10 speakers and use the amp "head" as an amp in Helix and combine that with a 4x10 cab model? then I could just output that through a nice pair of headphones and I could play my nice tube amp in the middle of the night and not bother anyone? It almost sounds too good to be true. But in my head I think it could work! Let me know what you think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbarney1991 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 You absolutely can not use your amp head without a cabinet plugged into it unless you have some kind of load box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstege Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 Thanks for the reply! That's kinda what I was thinking too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papanate Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 22 hours ago, nstege said: Hey Everyone, First off I am new to these forums so I am sorry if this question has already been answered. I had a hard time finding an answer for it so I figured I would ask. I just recently bought a Line 6 Helix LT and it is on its way to me. I know you can use Helix as just a pedal board with effects through a tube amp via the "4CM" (Four Cable Method), and that would work for me when I jam with buddy's. But with my Fender Hot Rod Deville it is hard to play that in my bedroom and sound good. SO, finally to the question. I was just wondering if this is even possible I don't know? Can I take my Fender amp "head" and unplug it from the 4-10 speakers and use the amp "head" as an amp in Helix and combine that with a 4x10 cab model? then I could just output that through a nice pair of headphones and I could play my nice tube amp in the middle of the night and not bother anyone? It almost sounds too good to be true. But in my head I think it could work! Let me know what you think! Yes you can. Plug the Helix into the Power Amp In on your Hot Rod Deville - then unplug the Speaker Output on the Deville Head - plugin a speaker cable in it's place and plug it into the 4 x 10 cabinet of your choice. Make sure you match the Ohms of the new cabinet to the Ohms output of the Deville. IOWs if the Deville output is 8 Ohms then the new cabinet has to be 8 Ohms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Papanate said: Yes you can. Plug the Helix into the Power Amp In on your Hot Rod Deville - then unplug the Speaker Output on the Deville Head - plugin a speaker cable in it's place and plug it into the 4 x 10 cabinet of your choice. Make sure you match the Ohms of the new cabinet to the Ohms output of the Deville. IOWs if the Deville output is 8 Ohms then the new cabinet has to be 8 Ohms. That's all true, but it's not what he was asking. He doesn't want to connect a different real 4x10 cabinet to the amp... he wants to disconnect the speakers entirely, use the preamp section of the amp for his core tone, then add a cab sim and monitor through headphones so he's not waking the whole neighborhood at 3 am. That scenario would leave no load on the amp's power section... the end result would be a smoldering 4x10 combo and a visit from the fire department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papanate Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, cruisinon2 said: That's all true, but it's not what he was asking. He doesn't want to connect a different real 4x10 cabinet to the amp... he wants to disconnect the speakers entirely, use the preamp section of the amp for his core tone, then add a cab sim and monitor through headphones so he's not waking the whole neighborhood at 3 am. That scenario would leave no load on the amp's power section... the end result would be a smoldering 4x10 combo and a visit from the fire department. Oh...so he just needs something like a Suhr Reactive Load - which will allow him to accomplish his idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstege Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 So, something like this would work? What is the difference between a reactive load box and an amp attenuator? Wouldn't an attenuator do the same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, nstege said: So, something like this would work? What is the difference between a reactive load box and an amp attenuator? Wouldn't an attenuator do the same thing? https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/22402-tone-tips-the-lowdown-on-load-boxes-attenuators-and-reamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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