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Why no 15W amp anymore?

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Who made this decision?? You're losing sales! It was the ideal amp for beginners and even seasoned guitarists like me. Mine stays at home always ready to play and rehearse. I also have a 30W, but use it only on occasional gigs. Why give up this great little amp? After all, you didn't have to re-invent the wheel, you had it already. Oh well, I have one... 

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They have the Spider V 20 now... That would be the replacement for the Spider IV 15. Actually, there's two versions - the Black and the Red.

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IMO the V30 is more than small enough, the wattage is just a number contrived by Maximum absolute peak levels by the looks of it - no way is that a real 30W  , I`ve heard Squier 15W guitar package amps louder  ..  my V240 isn`t a real 240W either - a Peavey Chorus 212  from the 80s/90s is a real 240W , transformer that would shame a 100W Valve amp and a proper heatsink out in the open a foot square . No idea where L6 (Yamaha) get these wattage ratings from 

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On 8/6/2019 at 1:11 PM, Adam_T said:

IMO the V30 is more than small enough, the wattage is just a number contrived by Maximum absolute peak levels by the looks of it - no way is that a real 30W  , I`ve heard Squier 15W guitar package amps louder  ..  my V240 isn`t a real 240W either - a Peavey Chorus 212  from the 80s/90s is a real 240W , transformer that would shame a 100W Valve amp and a proper heatsink out in the open a foot square . No idea where L6 (Yamaha) get these wattage ratings from 

 

Maybe . . . I have the 20 though. Got it for my son, and to me, it's perfect.

 

I keep hoping they give it the new update eventually. It's honestly not necessary, but more features is always cool. 

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11 minutes ago, Kilrahi said:

 

Maybe . . . I have the 20 though. Got it for my son, and to me, it's perfect.

 

I keep hoping they give it the new update eventually. It's honestly not necessary, but more features is always cool. 

 

The 20W version doesn't have a tweeter, so it's kind of always been in Classic Mode.

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On 8/6/2019 at 2:11 PM, Adam_T said:

IMO the V30 is more than small enough, the wattage is just a number contrived by Maximum absolute peak levels by the looks of it - no way is that a real 30W  , I`ve heard Squier 15W guitar package amps louder  ..  my V240 isn`t a real 240W either - a Peavey Chorus 212  from the 80s/90s is a real 240W , transformer that would shame a 100W Valve amp and a proper heatsink out in the open a foot square . No idea where L6 (Yamaha) get these wattage ratings from 

 

I believe the wattage rating includes the tweeter as well as the woofer... Not sure how they actually split up. But wattage ratings of speakers have always been only a little bit better than meaningless insofar as to how it relates to the actual SPL of the speaker.

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11 minutes ago, phil_m said:

 

The 20W version doesn't have a tweeter, so it's kind of always been in Classic Mode.

 

Interesting . . . well . . . I always liked the sound of it. lol

 

It does have an acoustic setting though as one of the defaults. How can they pull that off without a tweeter? 

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16 hours ago, Kilrahi said:

 

Interesting . . . well . . . I always liked the sound of it. lol

 

It does have an acoustic setting though as one of the defaults. How can they pull that off without a tweeter? 

 

Every amp has an acoustic setting - you just plug an acoustic in and turn the gain down....

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5 hours ago, StationGrey said:

 

Every amp has an acoustic setting - you just plug an acoustic in and turn the gain down....

 

Ummm, no. Yes you can do that, but it doesn't compare at all to a solid acoustic amp.

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