CybRGibson Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I am running Pod Farm to provide reverb for a mic connected to my Steinberg UR22 interface. Pod Farm has the Steinberg selected in hardware. I can hear the reverb effect through my UR22, but I cannot record it on any Windows 10 output. Where does the output of Pod Farm get routed to - Stereo Mix maybe? Can Pod Farm be used to act as an external "chain" effect for other recording apps? Can I use a virtual cable utility to route the wet sound to another app? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 If you want to record POD Farm in a DAW, just use the plug-in version, not the standalone app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fflbrgst Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 If you have the UR22 selected as the input and output device in Windows, that's where the Podfarm output is. In whatever DAW you want to use, you can select Podfarm or the UR22 as the audio input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 Thanks for the replies. VST plugins won't work because I am not using a DAW. In Reaper or other DAW software, I have no issue controlling routing path. My application is a web-based recording site (bandhug.com). When I try to record, even though I am hearing a wet track - bandhug records a dry track. I do already have my input and output audio set to the UR22 - but it doesn't pickup in any non-ASIO recording app. Does that make any sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 What are you connecting your mic to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Triryche said: What are you connecting your mic to? Condenser mic XLR (phantom pwr) > UR22 input #1 > USB to Windows > Pod Farm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Assuming you have a UX1 or UX2, a workaround would be to plug your mic into the Line6 interface and the line out(s) or headphone out to the UR22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 17 hours ago, Triryche said: Assuming you have a UX1 or UX2, a workaround would be to plug your mic into the Line6 interface and the line out(s) or headphone out to the UR22. I don't have a UX1 or 2. Just an old PodXT and a Steinberg UR22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Did you purchase a hardware independent version of PF2? What are you recording with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, Triryche said: Did you purchase a hardware independent version of PF2? What are you recording with? I'm actually running a trial of PF right now - but it is working, I just can't figure out where the output goes? I am recording on a website called bandhug.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I'm guessing your speakers are connected to the UR22? You could connect the UR22 headphone out to your PC line in. If you want stereo you will need a TRS connection on both ends of the cable and if you use a 1/4" to 1/8" adopter it will need to be the TRS version. Here's an example of 1/4" to 1/8' cable with no need for an adopter. https://www.amazon.com/TISINO-Stereo-Cable-Nylon-Interconnect/dp/B083R58TLJ Or you could run the UR22 L/R outs to the PC line in with a cable like this, but if your speakers are connected to the UR22 swapping cables back and forth gets annoying. https://www.amazon.com/TISINO-Stereo-Y-Splitter-Cable-Breakout/dp/B083R59ZNL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 Thanks for the suggestion Triryche - I did try that before (connecting my L out to the opposite input), but then I get unwanted audio in my microphone mix (WASAPI), such as backing track, etc. In some cases that will work for me but often I just want the isolated instrument + effects that would be provided from an ASIO channel for example. So in your opinion, the output of Pod Farm is just sent to the stereo mix internally and the L/R outs physically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I’m not sure if the trial version functions differently. When you use the trial do you need to select your UR22 in PF? If so anything you do in PF standalone should be available from the UR22 ASIO. Does the trial version include the plug-in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Yes the trial includes the plugins which I have also installed in Reaper as well. However I am not using Reaper for this recording application (BandHug.com) In PF I have options to select Steinberg UR22 & PodXT which works for selecting the dry signal input only but not the output of PF to include the wet signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Are you able to record to the site with Reaper? If so you could use the plug-in as Phil suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 No, the site uses windows to offer up available hardware interfaces via WSAPI I think. None of which carry the wet signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I can't check currently, but in Win7 there was an option in the sound control panel to check a box Listen to this device, which would make the audio from an interface available to Windows via the USB connection. I'm assuming there is an equivalent in Win10. But if there is, you may have the same issue as when you tried the analog connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 What I am surprised by is that standalone PF claims to work with many non-Line 6 interfaces - and while it does acquire the signal from a non-Line 6 ASIO interface, it does not send to any interface it seems. I don't know under what circumstances a standalone PF would work for outputting a wet signal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 But that's how ASIO interfaces work. The wet and dry signals from PF should be available to any program that uses ASIO. If you are able to capture a wet signal from PF in your DAW then, then PF is working properly with the UR22. Does bandhug have an active forum? I'm willing to bet you're not the only one try to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I thought just occurred to me, there is a driver called ASIO4ALL that I used a long time ago for a DAW that did not support ASIO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 I think the BandHug community may still be too small to get this sort of feedback. That's always the issue - do I ask Line 6, Steinberg or BandHug about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Triryche said: I thought just occurred to me, there is a driver called ASIO4ALL that I used a long time ago for a DAW that did not support ASIO. I have ASIO4ALL installed and it may work if I knew where the wet output of PF went? I also have a virtual VB-Cable software that lets me connect two internal devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 As far as I know the PF wet signal is routed to your interface's main outs and to is available to any software that accepts an ASIO input. I did a quick ASIO to WASAPI search, looks like there may be some options, hopefully one of them will work for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 I tried using the setup on a different site - bandlab. I got the same results; reverb in headphones but not in recording. It seems bandlab has added their own reverb effects, likely because there are no virtual-modeled plugins that work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybRGibson Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 I found this article that explains how to get audio to a streaming app from a DAW. Problem Solved with the Voxengo Recorder! https://www.aeseaes.com/stream-production/streaming-with-a-daw/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeezee Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 On 7/15/2020 at 10:15 AM, CybRGibson said: I am running Pod Farm to provide reverb for a mic connected to my Steinberg UR22 interface. Pod Farm has the Steinberg selected in hardware. I can hear the reverb effect through my UR22, but I cannot record it on any Windows 10 output. Where does the output of Pod Farm get routed to - Stereo Mix maybe? Can Pod Farm be used to act as an external "chain" effect for other recording apps? Can I use a virtual cable utility to route the wet sound to another app? I am having this exact same issue. I'm using a Steinberg UR12. I can hear the effects in Pod Farm but cannot use it in windows apps like voice recorder, or discord, or skype, or a video game, or a DAW. pretty much i can't use this with anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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