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How to switch between beat/note sync via MIDI?


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Hi everyone, how can i switch my delay (e.g. Vintage Digital) from note sync (e.g. 1/8 notes) to time (e.g. 300ms) via MIDI CC change?

 

For context, I have a Morningstar MC6 and an expression pedal. I want to have my delay sync to 1/8 notes most of the time, but when I hit a switch, i want it to go to time (milliseconds), and be controlled by expression pedal. I can't find any way to make this happen, as the sync/time switch doesn't seem to be mappable. Can't even seem to change it via snapshot...

 

 

 

Anything I'm overlooking here?

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Both Time and NoteSync are easy to setup concurrently with Min/Max Values, but the only way I can see to switch between the two modes is manually.

The only solution I can see is to use identical delays  with different settings and toggle them. DSP costly, especially if you're using HXS or HXFX.

Maybe a good candidate for Ideascale?

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2 hours ago, huzzam said:

Anything I'm overlooking here?


Yes, do the math!

 

For example @ 100BPM  300ms = 1/8 note.

 

I guess you are changing tempo and that is why you need to change from note division to milliseconds. Check for an online Delay calculator. 
 

Hope this helps/makes sense.

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47 minutes ago, datacommando said:

I guess you are changing tempo and that is why you need to change from note division to milliseconds.

 

The other reason I can think of for wanting to do this is to go from tightly-synced-to-tempo delays to doing delay-time-pitch-bend effects, using a footpedal as the equivalent of reaching down and twisting the Time knob on a pedal. (At least, that's why I'd want to do this....) A delay calculator isn't going to help with that.

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53 minutes ago, celtic_elk said:

 

The other reason I can think of for wanting to do this is to go from tightly-synced-to-tempo delays to doing delay-time-pitch-bend effects, using a footpedal as the equivalent of reaching down and twisting the Time knob on a pedal. (At least, that's why I'd want to do this....) A delay calculator isn't going to help with that.


Mmm... well all music is time related, always has been, always will be - Beats, note length and seconds or milliseconds, it’s all the same thing presented in different ways. It’s all division of time. As in the example that I gave in my previous post, so to expand on that:

  • 120 BPM gives an 1/8 note delay time of 250ms, and so forth as 1/4 = 500ms and 1/16 = 125ms.
  • 90 BPM gives an 1/8 note delay time of 500ms, and so forth as 1/4 = 1000ms and 1/16 = 250m
     

I have only given examples with whole number divisions, but it works for everything. If the OP knows what BPM his 1/8 note sync is, he can work out what that relates to in milliseconds and enter that instead of the 1/8 division then when he needs to change to 300ms it’s one click of a foot switch, or the sweep of an expression pedal from min to max.

 

Of course manual time manipulation is a whole different thing - time warping. ;-)

 

Hope this helps/makes sense.

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