hankeaston Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I just had my James Tyler Variax repaired at Line 6 in L.A. as the hard drive failed. Does anyone know of a way I can get it to work on the original Workbench? Right now it will only work on the HD workbench. Thanks, Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 No. The JTV models will simply not work with the original Workbench software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 What silverhead said. The is no portability between the the two versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankeaston Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 I have one JTV that is currently using the original workbench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 One of the early, early ones. Depends on the Firmware you are running, if still early enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankeaston Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 I just want to run the old version, not the HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankeaston Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 Can I "reboot" the repaired Variax to run on the original Workbench. Then I can just load all my saved sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankeaston Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 It opens on the old workbench but when I go to save a sound onto it I get this: see attachment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Model and Workbench feature and function mis-match. No portability between old and new Models, so no portability between old and new Workbench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankeaston Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 So can you tell me what is the last date that the JTV69 was manufactured to run on the old workbench? Could a licensed tech install a used or older "hard drive" into my guitar to make it compatible with the old workbench? Thanks, Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1- Not the date, it's the Flash version. Maybe do it using Flash v1.90 program via Monkey or our Downloads page. Otherwise it won't do it. Once it jumps to HD program, that's it. 2- It would have to come out of an older unit with 1.72 or 1.90, DON'T use 1.8xx firmware, it has a glitch. The boards that authorized techs get from us have current Firmware programmed by me,... and even I can't roll back beyond 1.90 program, even if I wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankeaston Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 I'll give it try, btw but I did have both guitars on HD when it first came out, and was able to switch back to the original, just not sure how I did it. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankeaston Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 Is the flash v.1.9 called something else, cause I can't seem to find it anywhere? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankeaston Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 It worked like a charm, once I closed the workbench app. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankeaston Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/30/2022 at 4:53 AM, silverhead said: No. The JTV models will simply not work with the original Workbench software. It does work. You just have to rollback the JTV to v1.9. The only way to do this is to make sure the workbench apps are closed, as the monkey won't give you the option while they're open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 On 12/31/2022 at 11:57 AM, hankeaston said: It does work. You just have to rollback the JTV to v1.9. The only way to do this is to make sure the workbench apps are closed, as the monkey won't give you the option while they're open. Good to know. Just curious…. Why do you need/want to give up the benefits of JTV firmware v2.x in order to stay on the original Workbench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I can't imagine why anyone would want to run legacy Workbench if they don't have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankeaston Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 To be honest, overall the HD samples are no where near as good as the originals, especially the acoustic guitars. Pretty much all the electrics were better before the HD imo, except for maybe the 335. The strat pales in comparison to the old one. Also the I found no need to adjust the individual string volume with the old software but neede it big time with the HD, and still after spending hours working with the HD and a/b'ing with my old sounds, I was very disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I’ve heard many reports that people prefer the pre-HD Variax models, and there’s no refuting personal preference. I wonder… in your A/B comparisons and testing did you ever try importing an old Variax Workbench preset/model into Workbench HD? If that works and sounds good then you could ‘upgrade’ to the new features and still retain the old models. I’ve no idea whether it does work but might be worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankeaston Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 Oh yes, I tried everything! It's one or the other. If they would have kept all the old models and offered some new ones that would have been ideal. I don't know what they did in regards to sampling with the HD software but it's overall not good. Some of the new features are cool, but nothing I can't live without. Just happy I was able to get my old sounds back! I was already looking for a replacement ax that had the old firmware... Also you would think the HD would be faster, but it's not at least on my Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 OK, I understand now. The main reason I asked "why?" is because legacy Workbench is such a train wreck to use on newer systems. I kept an old Macbook running old OSX and Java mainly to run legacy Workbench to use with my Variax 700 acoustic. If it ran on modern systems, and if old Variax firmware was easier to swap in and out of my Variax Standard, I would love to play around with the options. For example, I loved the ability to pitch a string down an octave to blend with the unpitched string sound on my Acoustic 700; something I was not able to do using my Standard with Workbench HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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