line-6-user Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Hi everyone, I am having some problems with the Asio driver for Helix floor but not with otheraudio interface. I have set the buffer to 256 samples and getting a few pops on every 30 seconds or thereabout. The thing is, I also have a Beringer XR-18 digital mixer and when using just that with a multitude of sound application, all at the same time, and loads of vst plugins too, I can use the buffer size of 64 samples with hardly any problems at all. The helix driver seems not to be very efficient and to avoid glitches I need to set it to 512 samples, which is horrible for latency. I really would like to use 256 samples as a very minimum 128 samples would be ideal. The application I use Helix driver in is Gig performer 4, running Midi Guitar 2 inside it. Helix can provide the clean Re-Amp path from USB 7,8. Any advice is appreciated. Is there any other muli-client Asio driver for Helix? Not Asio4all though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 12:15 PM, line-6-user said: … Is there any other muli-client Asio driver for Helix? Not Asio4all though. Therein lies the rub. A multi-client ASIO driver is an oxymoron. By definition the ASIO protocol requires that the same audio device be used as both the input and output device. For the same reason that you say ‘Not Asio4all’ you should also say ‘Not a multi-client ASIO driver’. Because if it’s multi-client it’s not ASIO. Or perhaps I misunderstand what you mean by multi-client in this context? I use my Helix Rack and the Line 6 ASIO driver almost daily, with multiple sound applications and plenty of plugins including multiple instances of Helix Native. No performance issues. How much RAM in your computer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierM Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 IME the Helix/HX ASIO drivers never been good enough for live/low latency use. Even on high performance computers, I never managed to get a solid and reliable low latency performance. Something I could easily achieve with my Scarlett, or MOTU, or the little Jogg. Same story in MacOS. Core Audio works much better than L6 drivers. Again, this is just my own experience, in 8 years I do mess with these devices (I had the Floor, then Rack, now I only own the Stomp). On the other side, these drivers are perfectly good for standard DAW operations, where a super fast round trip isnt a requirement. The drivers are good and reliable, but not fast enough for live VST, that's it. If you really need to use VSTs for live, my suggestion is to find a product with better drivers for this use (like RME). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigstage Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 You can't go wrong with RME drivers. They offer very fast and multi-client ASIO drivers. Other picks are MOTU and Audient audio interfaces. CoreAudio in macOS is also a great choice and provides you with multi-client drivers. ASIO4ALL? Although "somewhat" usable, it introduces additional latency. As for the single-client drivers, there are certain workarounds so that you can use it with multiple applications after all. Please refer to this blog article: https://gigperformer.com/how-to-use-a-single-client-asio-driver-with-multiple-applications-on-windows/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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