gbakerjr Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Hey all...Got GAS for a Helix, but I'm curious as to if I can get a decent acoustic simulation off of a mag pickup signal? Currently I run guitars with both mags and piezo's. My main rig is an HD500x. I run the signal from the mags into it, and then the piezo signal straight into the FOH board, adding a little Fx to it at the board. What I'd like to do, is to get some of my guitars that don't have piezos back into my play rotation. If I can get a decent acoustic simulation (doesn't have to be great, just reasonable. I'm the only guitar player in the band, so the acoustic sound is more to fatten things up than anything else) through the Helix, I'd like to split my mag signal once it gets to the Helix. Run one signal path like I normally would for my guitar signal, and then run a separate signal path within the Helix for an acoustic simulation, and then send the acoustic sim signal out an aux to the FOH board (I still want to keep the mag and acoustic sounds separate). I'd just build the acoustic sim into every patch, and then assign a footswitch to mute or unmute it. So....Can I do that with the Helix, and can I expect to get a reasonably decent acoustic sim out of the Helix? FYI....To give you a gauge on what I consider "reasonable", the Boss Acoustic Simulator pedal SUCKS! ;-) Thanks all! Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I finally just put piezos in all my electrics and got rid of the ones that don't have it.I tried (just a little) to simulate with the electric guitar signal, but didn't even want to bother. Just didn't like it.That said, a piezo + IR in Helix makes for some amazing acoustic tones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 btw, two-voice with the helix is da bomb.https://pietrosquared.wordpress.com/helix-2-voice-guitar/ Here's a sample with an electric that has a piezo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 btw, two-voice with the helix is da bomb. https://pietrosquared.wordpress.com/helix-2-voice-guitar/ Here's a sample with an electric that has a piezo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfOkO3GGIkQ OK, I'm jealous now...lol. ;) Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsdenj Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 A magnetic pickup just can't generate the frequencies that would be required for an acoustic tone. The highest frequency from most magnetic pickups is around 6kHz, an acoustic guitar might go as much as twice that. An acoustic guitar body image can't create frequencies that aren't there, it can only dynamically shape which is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairp70 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 The boss GT-1 has a good acoustic simulator on it. I assume it sounds similar to their AC-3 pedal but actually haven't heard that. Sure wish the Helix had a good acoustic simulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 The boss GT-1 has a good acoustic simulator on it. I assume it sounds similar to their AC-3 pedal but actually haven't heard that. Sure wish the Helix had a good acoustic simulator. There are ways to do it with EQ, comp, tube preamp model and an acoustic IR that are way better than any other simulator like the AC 3 I've encountered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mileskb Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Piezo works best... unless of course you have one of these... and that's pretty much all you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanecgriffo Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 i usually still blend my acoustic using piezo and magnetic pickups using the Zoom acoustic preamp and it sounds good.. haven't really tried it with helix yet but might give it a go soon... and report back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickcrider Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Curious if anyone has made any progress on this? I would really love to get some acoustic simulation going on my mag pickups. Doesn't have to be perfect. Just something like BOSS's simulators on their multi effects units or the $40 JOYO peddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleeden Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I use an IR block loaded with an acoustic guitar IR from 3Sigma audio. It works pretty well with my Telecaster, a bit of eq and reverb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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