Fletcher Munson EQ

[RexVaj]

Many people run into a problem with setting a tone while at one volume and then playing at another volume and the tone is either dull or piercing due to the Fletcher Munson curve.  A simple eq that goes from smile to frown with the twist of a knob would be a quick way to deal with that issue during soundcheck.  This would probably be applied to the output so as to work on all presets.

[themetallikid]

You could do 3 things....1 not a guarantee....

 

1) You could set the global eq up this way and just turn it on/off as needed.  However this affects all presets GLOBALLY the same way so its not a great bandage for this issue.  I wouldnt recommend this.

 

2)  Tweak your presets at the closest volume and on the closest equipment you can to what it will be played through.  It's the only true way to combat this issue.  

 

3)  In between 1 & 2.....you can reference what YOUR monitoring situation sounds like....and then compare how that translates to your PA situation and then make adjustments at home knowing that what you hear isnt 'perfect' for your ears at home, but will translate to the performance PA appropriately.  

 

 

I do a combination of 2/3.  My headphones can be a bit muffled on high end.  It's easy for me to dial the highs too bright....I know that.  I dial them in with my headphones to be a touch muffled and it translates well to my PA.  If I dialed them in to sound good on my headphones, no one could stand within about 100ft of the PA then...they would end up sterile.  lol.   One second solution is to copy your presets to another setlist or preset slot(s) and then you can adjust one for headphones and one for PA use.  Same presets, just different EQing. 

[PierM]

I just do te easy way, that works fine for me most of the time.

 

All prestes done at "solid" volume and then a generic "loudness" profile in the Global EQ to be engaged at low volumes. Easily adjustable on the fly as needed.

 

It's harder the opposite way, as you tend to over-compensate everything when doing presets at low volume.

 

This is one of those aspects that people tends to overthink about, especially guitarists. :)

[SaschaFranck]

The global EQ works great for such purposes. I don't exactly need it much anymore (if at all), as by now I had enough time to bake my own IRs for rehearsal/gig volume, but it's still there, just in case (or whenever I want to check some new IRs). Just set up a broad midrange boost/cut. Personally, I usually went for a boost to take my homebrewn presets to gig compatibility rather than the other way around. Frequency is something around 700Hz, Q is around 0.4-0.5, plus I might also add some low cut on boomy stages. It's only applied to the XLR out feeding my personal monitor.

[codamedia]

20 hours ago, RexVaj said:

Many people run into a problem with setting a tone while at one volume and then playing at another volume and the tone is either dull or piercing due to the Fletcher Munson curve.  A simple eq that goes from smile to frown with the twist of a knob would be a quick way to deal with that issue during soundcheck.  This would probably be applied to the output so as to work on all presets.

 

I wouldn't advocate this approach... but to each his own. I prefer to avoid any/all EQ correction unless absolutely necessary rather than have it part of my routine. Get a great live tone then learn how it sounds at low volume.... use that as a template moving forward. Over time you will get decent at it... .but ultimately it is best to create sounds at the volumes you will play. 

 

If I DID approach it with EQ.... I would create a "loudness" curve in the global EQ and turn it on while at home/at low volumes. At a gig I would simply turn it off. I would not attempt it in reverse... and most certainly would not toggle between two "opposite" curves. 

 

That's just my 2 cents...