Bluetooth audio from iPhone to Helix USB input

[volcanotim]

Can I use a Bluetooth adapter like this dongle 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TFUFR-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Supports/dp/B09Q8X3LP6/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=bluetooth+receiver+usb+b&qid=1679925916&sr=8-14

with an adapter like this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SHANFEILU-Female-Print-Adapter-Converter/dp/B0BPCY7GV6/ref=sr_1_3?crid=135WX749CFACE&keywords=usb+to+usb+b+adapter&qid=1679926945&sprefix=usb+to++usb+b+%2Caps%2C75&sr=8-3

 

to turn it into USB B type so I can plug it into the USB of my Helix so that I can play backing tracks over Bluetooth from my iPhone? If not what the solution?

 

[SaschaFranck]

No, won't work as the Helix is no USB host (which would be needed for that BT plug to work).

The solution is using either a plain old audio cable (3.5mm to 6.3mm, TRS) and run it into the aux input or a camera connection kit running into the USB port. In that case, the Helix should become available as a playback device on your iPhone (no warranty, though, I'm not using an iPhone).

[datacommando]

On 3/27/2023 at 3:24 PM, volcanotim said:

plug it into the USB of my Helix so that I can play backing tracks over Bluetooth from my iPhone? If not what the solution?

 

Hi,

 

If you want to have your iPhone/iPad communicate via USB for playing backing tracks etc., you need the Apple Camera Connection Kit.

 

https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MK0W2ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-3-camera-adapter

 

I have used the ACCK for a long time to hook up to my iPad, I also have an IK Multimedia iRig2 and iRig Acoustic Stage to allow me to use GarageBand on the iPad to quickly grab ideas when not in the studio - but that is for sending audio in to the iPad.

 

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irig2/

 

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigacousticstage/

 

Hope this helps/makes sense.

[volcanotim]

On 3/27/2023 at 3:56 PM, SaschaFranck said:

No, won't work as the Helix is no USB host (which would be needed for that BT plug to work

Thanks but That doesn’t make sense. I’m able to play audio through a USB cable to the Helix. All I want to do is replace the cable with a Bluetooth receiver. I’m inclined to just buy them and try it unless anyone can explain why it won’t work and what will?  

[SaschaFranck]

On 3/27/2023 at 11:44 PM, volcanotim said:

Thanks but That doesn’t make sense.

 

Let me tell you: It does. But let me also tell you: I had a tough time grasping the "concepts" behind things as well at first.

 

On 3/27/2023 at 11:44 PM, volcanotim said:

I’m able to play audio through a USB cable to the Helix.

 

Sure. But in that case, the Helix serves as a USB client (or "slave", if you will).

 

On 3/27/2023 at 11:44 PM, volcanotim said:

All I want to do is replace the cable with a Bluetooth receiver.

 

I know. But for that to work, you need a USB host (or "master", if you will). You'd need that for power supplement as well (which USB B ports don't deliver).

 

On 3/27/2023 at 11:44 PM, volcanotim said:

I’m inclined to just buy them and try it unless anyone can explain why it won’t work and what will?

 

Feel free doing so. You got the explanation above, though. Your BT plug wouldn't even wake up as there's no bus power running on the Helix' USB port. Seriously, it's pointless to even just try.

[volcanotim]

Ok I get it now thanks. So apart from a cable solution I guess I could use something like this into the aux and edit each patch to play the aux input

 

HVMLAK Aux Bluetooth Receiver for Car, Mini Bluetooth Aux Adapter v5.3 with Swivel 3.5mm Audio Jack for Hi-Fi Home Stereo Music Streaming, Handsfree Calling, 12 Hours Battery Life, Adjustable Volume https://amzn.eu/d/aTnBMdE

[datacommando]

On 3/28/2023 at 12:15 AM, volcanotim said:

Ok I get it now thanks. So apart from a cable solution I guess I could use something like this into the aux and edit each patch to play the aux input

 

HVMLAK Aux Bluetooth Receiver for Car, Mini Bluetooth Aux Adapter v5.3 with Swivel 3.5mm Audio Jack for Hi-Fi Home Stereo Music Streaming, Handsfree Calling, 12 Hours Battery Life, Adjustable Volume https://amzn.eu/d/aTnBMdE

Hi, again,

 

You are misunderstanding about the Bluetooth connection in general - it’s just not up to the job, (if it was, people would be doing it), and it has been discussed at length in these threads over quite some time. One word - Latency!

Here’s one:

https://line6.com/support/topic/34109-helix-to-run-bluetooth-headphones/

 

plus:

More:

 

Hope this helps/makes sense.

[PierM]

...it wont work unless you are fine getting a backing track with a 250~300ms latency.

[SaschaFranck]

No idea what latency has got to do with this. Doesn't really matter when it's all about a backingtrack.

[PierM]

On 3/28/2023 at 2:04 PM, SaschaFranck said:

No idea what latency has got to do with this. Doesn't really matter when it's all about a backingtrack.

 

Oh yeah, you are right. My head was thinking he was going to send to iphone via BT transmitter, while it's exactly the opposite, so latency isn't an issue. 

[Fred2515]

On 3/27/2023 at 5:56 PM, SaschaFranck said:

No, won't work as the Helix is no USB host (which would be needed for that BT plug to work).

The solution is using either a plain old audio cable (3.5mm to 6.3mm, TRS) and run it into the aux input or a camera connection kit running into the USB port. In that case, the Helix should become available as a playback device on your iPhone (no warranty, though, I'm not using an iPhone).

Thanks for the explanation.

[jester700]

On 3/27/2023 at 7:15 PM, volcanotim said:

Ok I get it now thanks. So apart from a cable solution I guess I could use something like this into the aux and edit each patch to play the aux input

 

HVMLAK Aux Bluetooth Receiver for Car, Mini Bluetooth Aux Adapter v5.3 with Swivel 3.5mm Audio Jack for Hi-Fi Home Stereo Music Streaming, Handsfree Calling, 12 Hours Battery Life, Adjustable Volume https://amzn.eu/d/aTnBMdE

Yes; something like that would work. That thing, into the proper adapter cable, into aux in on the Helix.

[Fred2515]

On 10/22/2023 at 2:23 PM, jester700 said:

Yes; something like that would work. That thing, into the proper adapter cable, into aux in on the Helix.

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