Helix Native Features VS Helix Edit

[Bboy19]

Hi, I'm debating to get Helix Native to use in Cubase. I have the Helix Floor and Edit. There is a good price now. I trying to find a chart with a feature comparison. Is there one? 

 

I know it resides in my DAW etc. What are the real advantages to using it. I guess I'm trying to justify if it is going to be use full to me.  Home studio, guitar player etc.

 

Any help would be appreciate.

 

Thanks for your time.

 

Bboy19

 

[rd2rk]

Helix Edit is to Helix Native as a typewriter is to a book.

As a potato masher is to mashed potatoes.

As a frying pan is to a scrambled egg.

You can't eat a potato masher, and you can't make music with Helix Edit.

Helix Edit is used to edit the files which constitute the presets that you can load into Helix or Helix Native to make musical sounds come out of the thing on the floor or that thing on your desk.

You don't need Helix Edit to use your Helix or Helix Native any more than you need a potato masher to eat a potato or a frying pan to eat an egg.

Its greatest value is as a file manager and as a visual aid to help you to avoid the need to bend over a lot or clutter up your desk with that big old hunk of metal that you step on with your dirty shoes and smelly feet.

It is, however, free!

 

[datacommando]

On 4/5/2024 at 1:42 AM, rd2rk said:

Helix Edit is to Helix Native as a typewriter is to a book.

As a potato masher is to mashed potatoes.

As a frying pan is to a scrambled egg.

You can't eat a potato masher, and you can't make music with Helix Edit.

Helix Edit is used to edit the files which constitute the presets that you can load into Helix or Helix Native to make musical sounds come out of the thing on the floor or that thing on your desk.

You don't need Helix Edit to use your Helix or Helix Native any more than you need a potato masher to eat a potato or a frying pan to eat an egg.

Its greatest value is as a file manager and as a visual aid to help you to avoid the need to bend over a lot or clutter up your desk with that big old hunk of metal that you step on with your dirty shoes and smelly feet.

It is, however, free!

 

True words of wisdom, Master!

[datacommando]

On 4/4/2024 at 11:36 PM, Bboy19 said:

I know it resides in my DAW etc. What are the real advantages to using it. I guess I'm trying to justify if it is going to be use full to me.  Home studio, guitar player etc.

Hi,

 

Helix Native is the equivalent of the “software brain” that lives inside your Helix floor. It does everything that your hardware does, but it doesn’t have some of the hardware specific features such as a Looper, or the Send/Return jack sockets, etc. It lives inside your DAW as a plug-in, that you can use to process any audio track you like.

 

HX Edit is (quote from HX Pilot’s Guide) -

“HX Edit is a simple, but powerful, editor, preset librarian, and IR manager application. It allows you to easily customize, backup, and manage your tone presets and setlists, as well as manage the Impulse Responses on your Line 6 Helix or HX device.”

 

Download a 15 day fully functional trial version of Helix Native here:

https://uk.line6.com/helix/helixnative.html

 

For more info please read:
https://line6.com/data/6/0a020a3f1542654ead6ac7570/application/pdf/Helix Native Pilot's Guide 3.70 - English .pdf

 

https://line6.com/data/6/0a020a4167cd654eae06274c7/application/pdf/HX Edit Pilots Guide 3.70 - English .pdf
 

Hope this helps/makes sense.

 

[Bboy19]

Hi, thanks for all information, links and philosophical perspective. 

 

I will have to do more research. To bad Line 6 did not create a table of features for both apps.  like they do for the hardware. 

 

Thanks 

 

Bboy19

[silverhead]

On 4/4/2024 at 6:36 PM, Bboy19 said:

….. What are the real advantages to using it. …..

 

That depends on your personal usage and requirements. I use Helix Native along with my Helix Rack and find the benefits are:

- I can record both a wet and dry track simultaneously in my DAW (Cakewalk by Bandlab and/or Reaper).

- I can use the Native plugin to reamp the dry track rather than using the Helix Rack hardware. My guitar tone can change repeatedly and continuously during the recording project development. I never need to replay a guitar part for tonal reasons (technical playing skill, now that’s different….).

- I have the same familiar user interface in both Native and HX Edit. Anything I can do in Edit I can do in Native, subject to hardware restrictions (e.g. no FX Loop). Also, in Native I can remove the DSP limitations of a Helix device, and am limited only by my PC resources.

- I can swap compatible presets between Helix Rack and Helix Native, meaning I immediately and easily have the same tones that are on the recording when I play live.

- Helix Native is a very powerful plugin FX processor for lots of things other than guitar (vocals, synths, drums, …).

[Bboy19]

Hi, thanks for the information. Now that tells a little more on how it is used.

 

Take care

 

Bb0y19

 

[datacommando]

On 4/5/2024 at 3:12 PM, Bboy19 said:

To bad Line 6 did not create a table of features for both apps.  like they do for the hardware. 

 

Huh? Why?

 

There is nothing to compare as they both do entirely different things.

 

HX Edit is exactly that - a free editor for any of the Helix family of products. It also allows you to edit, manage and collate a library of your presets. It cannot produce any audio. It's a remote control for the hardware and cannot function without being connected via USB.

 

Helix Native is the same as a fully functional, full blown Helix in plug-in software form, capable of running inside a DAW for creating and playing back absolutely anything that you could create and playback in the hardware, minus a few bits like Send and Return jacks noted above.

 

No comparison!

 

Now - where did I leave my potato masher?

 

Hope this helps/makes sense.

[Bboy19]

Hi, ok,so same functionality, minus jacks that makes sense, plus I/O meters and works in a DAW.

 

Thanks

 

Bboy19 

[Paddythemac22]

Hi all, just bought a Helix Floor - second hand, so not eligible for the Native discount :-( then just missed the March sale.. Floor is amazing & getting Native will allow me tons of flexibility when recording, so anyone know when the next sale will be?

Thanks

Paddy