themetallikid Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 So I have helix connected to laptop via usb. Laptop connected to Behringer Xair16 mixer to help me check levels or preset creation. I have the volume the loudest in spotify that i can. the Windows volume (helix driver) is at 100%. Is the only way to balance the volume of the spotify music vs my presets by adjusting my preset level? My presets are totally drowning out the Spotify music, but what i'm sending is right where i want it to be for the mixer for full band stuff. I didnt see anything in Global settings to adjust usb audio signal level boost/cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Which device, Helix or Behringer, do you have (want to have) your speakers/momitors connected to? Specify that device in your Windows Audio settings and adjust your PC (not Helix) audio levels accordingly. Edit: I removed the question re: OS. I noticed you specified Windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/17/2024 at 2:39 AM, themetallikid said: I didnt see anything in Global settings to adjust usb audio signal level boost/cut. Hi, Global Settings > In/Out - USB Trim 1/2 - Sets the level of incoming audio from USB 1/2, which bypasses all Helix processing. Normally, this should be left at 0.0dB. (Adjustable from -60dB to +18dB) Hope this helps/makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themetallikid Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 On 4/17/2024 at 7:49 AM, silverhead said: Which device, Helix or Behringer, do you have (want to have) your speakers/momitors connected to? Specify that device in your Windows Audio settings and adjust your PC (not Helix) audio levels accordingly. Edit: I removed the question re: OS. I noticed you specified Windows. Yes i should have stated it better. I'm going guitar>Helix > Laptop/mixer. I am monitoring directly off the Helix via the Headphones jack. I have the windows/Helix output selected and its at 100, usually this is fine and then adjust my headphones output to where i want my guitar to be in my ears and then use the spotify volume setting to adjust the 'mix' of the song vs preset volumes. i dont know if something changed or what, but my spotify and windows volumes are maxed and my preset is overpowering the music. On 4/17/2024 at 8:20 AM, datacommando said: Hi, Global Settings > In/Out - USB Trim 1/2 - Sets the level of incoming audio from USB 1/2, which bypasses all Helix processing. Normally, this should be left at 0.0dB. (Adjustable from -60dB to +18dB) Hope this helps/makes sense. ok. i've never had to adjust this so i'm not sure what changed. I'll try this, thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waymda Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/18/2024 at 3:30 AM, themetallikid said: I'm going guitar>Helix > Laptop/mixer. I am monitoring directly off the Helix via the Headphones jack. This path is likely your problem. I do this as Guitar >> Helix >> Mixer (XLR) Laptop (with audio) >> Mixer (USB) Mixer >> Heaphones Set the mixer as the USB playback device in Windows, and trim inputs from the Laptop and use the faders to set the over relative volume - then use Patch changes to adjust the Helix output levels. I normally do this with both my mixer and Helix connected via USB but the Helix USB only being used for edit. This approach allows both the channel input levels to be monitored and the relativities of patches to pre-rec music - noting that pre-rec audio may vary in loudness as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themetallikid Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 On 4/17/2024 at 5:14 PM, waymda said: This path is likely your problem. I do this as Guitar >> Helix >> Mixer (XLR) Laptop (with audio) >> Mixer (USB) Mixer >> Heaphones Set the mixer as the USB playback device in Windows, and trim inputs from the Laptop and use the faders to set the over relative volume - then use Patch changes to adjust the Helix output levels. I normally do this with both my mixer and Helix connected via USB but the Helix USB only being used for edit. This approach allows both the channel input levels to be monitored and the relativities of patches to pre-rec music - noting that pre-rec audio may vary in loudness as well. I dont usually use the mixer at home. I fail to see how the mixer being connected to the laptop via CAT5 cable, and only getting audio out of my Helix 1/4" output would cause me to get a different spotify level utilizing Helix's headphone jack. Windows is utilizing the Helix driver, volume level. There is nothing passing audio from the laptop to the mixer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 So when at home and not using the mixer do you still have this problem? Is it possible that Spotify has its own audio device setting, independent of the overall PC audio setting? What happens if you disconnect the mixer from the computer (usb) but leave it connected to Helix (XLR)? Just trying to troubleshoot here, not really suggesting solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themetallikid Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 On 4/18/2024 at 12:10 PM, silverhead said: So when at home and not using the mixer do you still have this problem? Is it possible that Spotify has its own audio device setting, independent of the overall PC audio setting? What happens if you disconnect the mixer from the computer (usb) but leave it connected to Helix (XLR)? Just trying to troubleshoot here, not really suggesting solutions. I havent had this problem before. Typically, same setup.....sans mixer connection....i'd have to run spotify volume around 80% or it overpowered my helix portion of what I was hearing. As far as I'm aware, unless a Spotify update changed something with settings, I have not noticed this issue otherwise. I really think the mixer is not an issue, was more looking for a way to adjust the Spotify/tracks volume as my Spotify/Windows volumes are maxed, without having to adjust my preset volumes cause they are hitting my mixer where I want them.....or needing to have a separate at home vs. practice/gig setlist of presets. I will say, which I have not added to this conversation....and this is more likely the 'problem'....is that I have redone my presets for this project. My output settings have always been set to 0.0 db previously, and then using a gain block to adjust a boost for leads. On my new presets I do have the rhythms -3db, and leads at 0.0 db. so nothing should be different then in a way that makes my guitar louder than it was. However I am using the SLO amps in my presets and have noticed that the channel volumes range between 4.5 and 7 depending on the version of the SLO and its gain setting. I'm wondering if that amp model is just that much 'louder' of an amp sim than the Placatar which I was using before. I'm using the same IR so no changes there. Is the SLO amp just that much louder compared to the Placatar? My Placatar settings (saturation switch was on, which seems to drop the output volume a bit) was constantly in the 9 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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