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Does this mean Line 6 will start selling the transmitters again? I broke my transmitter just before this all went down and couldn't find them in the stores anymore. I miss my G10!

I'm wondering the same thing. I love my G10, but I broke the transmitter because I'm an idiot. I tried to buy a new transmitter and they don't seem to be available any more! What's going on? Will they be coming back? How will I be able to wow the crowd with my stage presence without carrying AA batteries now?

I've used my POD for both home recording and for playing live, and there were definitely hurdles to get over with the live sound. My problem was getting my chosen tone to mix well with the rest of the band, because I liked my tone by itself but it disappeared in the mix. I realize you're not having the same problem I had, so I'll just give you some things that I tweaked in order to get a sound that I liked. The most important thing was the microphone choice. I liked the SM57 when I was recording, but with the band that just didn't have enough body, so I tried every different microphone until I found one that carried better. In fact, the mic that I decided on gave my tone a lot of body. I don't love that tone by itself, but with the band it sounds great. (I'd tell you which mic model I use, but I forget, lol). I also went direct into our PA, and I liked that a lot. My goal with using the POD was to not have an amp to lug around, so I just plugged into the mixer and sent it to the mains and the monitors. That's important because the speakers in the mains added some low end for me. Cabinet settings were something that I also tweaked a lot, and I sometimes used dual amps/cabs to give me some more body to the tone. Those are things you can try, but for me the magic really came when I found a mic that sat better in our mix. The last piece of advice I have is, be patient, and tweak as much as you can while you have your live setup there. I did a lot of tweaking at home, then going to practice to see how it sounded, and that's a real pain. Listening on whatever you'll use live is the only way to hear how it will sound, because even FRFR speakers will all sound a little different. I hope this helps. Stay positive. You can definitely use the POD live, it's just a different animal than an amp but to me it's worth the extra effort.

It doesn't look like it's plugged in all the way. You need to plug the transmitter in all the way to get it to charge, then you can try to update firmware. It will light up when it is in all the way.

You are very welcome. I'm glad it worked for you!

Does your transmitter ever light up when you put it in the base?

When I first tried to upgrade, I thought it said the same thing. But it was actually telling me the base had no updates available. I had to select the transmitter and then it let me upgrade. So double check that you're looking at the transmitter upgrades and not just the receiver.

I think you fixed it! The only guitar I've been using it in is an Ibanez with a recessed input jack. The G10 doesn't reach far enough when the stock guitar, so I took out the input and put some rubber spacers in there to push the jack out about a half inch. The G10 works, but I think sometimes it wasn't pushing the button quite enough or something. Last night the G10 wouldn't connect, so I pushed the button myself, and it synced up right away. I put it in the guitar and it worked all night. The piece of the puzzle I was missing was the location of the button. Now that I know what to try when it doesn't work, I think I'll be fine. I also have an extension cable I can use in a pinch if it gives me problems at a show. Thanks so much for the info!!

I asked some of this in another thread, but rather than continue to hijack that thread I decided to start my own. The story: I have a Relay G10 that worked like a charm when I first got it. The first week it was flawless, then in the second week I was at practice and the battery ran out. I used a cord for the rest of practice, went home and charged the Relay for a little bit (not a full charge), and it still wouldn't work. When I pulled it out of the base and plugged it into the guitar, the lights on the transmitter and the base would blink like it wasn't syncing. I left it in the charger and went to bed, the next morning it still didn't sync up. But the green light was on the transmitter all night, so I'm wondering if the transmitter charged, stopped charging, then stayed on and the battery drained? When this happened, I charged it again, then took it out when it was done and it worked. I used it for a few days and it was fine, then I left it in the base again before a practice, and when I showed up at practice it once again wouldn't sync. Am I draining the battery by leaving it in the base all the time? What should I do with the transmitter once it is charged? This thing was so easy to use right out of the box that I took it for granted! Now that it's not working, I'm lost. What procedure should I use for charging, syncing, and storing my Relay?

This is an old thread, but it looks like it is still in use so I'm going to post my question here. Hopefully someone can help me, and if this is the wrong place let me know. I got a G10 a couple weeks ago and I love it. On the same day, my bass player got one and brought it to practice, and my battery died in the middle of practice. At the beginning of practice the G10 was fine, but once the battery died I tried to charge it a little and use it again, but it wouldn't connect. I took it home and charged it, and it worked fine. Took it to a gig, plugged it in, and it would not find a channel. The halo on the base just kept pulsing white. I used a cord at the gig (which was torture after using the G10!), then brought everything home and hooked it up in my house. I still get the same thing, the transmitter charges in the base, but when I take it out, it never syncs up with the base at all. I'm not sure what to do! Can anybody help?

@ Pianoguyy, Yeah, I realize the POD won't sound as good as a keyboard, I'm just hoping to get close. We don't have the option of adding a keyboard because we don't have enough people in the band, so I'm hoping I can do something to give the illusion of a keyboard for a small part in a song. @ Nico, I tried your effect last night and it worked pretty well. I'm going to try the vocoder tonight and see how it does. The Voice Box wasn't bad, I guess I was just hoping it would be more dramatic of an effect. I was playing at very low volume, though, so tonight when I practice with the band I'll try it through the PA and see how it sounds. It might come down to which sounds better with the least amount of DSP. This patch is pretty full; I'm trying to use the Ahh's, the octoverb for some strings type of a sound, and a synth all at different places of the song and within the same patch. Add to that the amp, delays and a mid-focus EQ for my lead tone and I'm pretty packed. I'll keep you guys updated, and if I ever manage to pull this off I'll try to upload a recording.

Thanks Duncann! I'll try that as soon as I get home tonight.

Thanks for the reply, Nico. Would the vocoder allow me to do what I'm thinking? I suppose I should play around with it myself to figure that out. Can you think of any other ways to produce the sound I'm looking for?

Has anybody ever tried to set up an "Ooo" or "Ahh" type of effect on the pod? Something that would sound even a little bit like voices? I've been through a lot of the synths and sometimes I can convince myself that some of them are close. It got me to thinking that maybe a combination of things could make an effect sound like voices. Has anybody tried this? Is it a dumb question? I thought about maybe using the vocoder to see if I could get that to sound right, but I don't ever want to have a microphone in front of me at a gig. They terrify me, lol.

I've had my POD for a year now, and at first I felt overwhelmed by the massive amount of options. So I went with what you described... one preset that worked for me. I used it for recording and jamming with friends, and I always felt exactly like you said, that I was selling myself short by using such a simple setup. Then I started using it to play with my band instead of my Marshall amp. That took a lot of tweaking to get it to play well with the rest of the band, but once I got it there it sounded amazing. Still just one preset, though. BUT, after using it with the band for a few months, I started experimenting. Mostly I would take one song out of our set and do some different amp or effect. I seemed to add one song at a time with a new, fun preset, and now I have maybe five or six that I use during our show. I still have my basic, "My Tone" kind of sound, but then I do some other stuff every once in a while just to experiment. I have no intention of getting to where I have a new preset for every song. That would be too much work trying to keep the volumes balanced and stuff. But I like having my basic tone and still giving myself a chance to see what the POD can do. And you can do that in very small increments. A song here and there just to make it interesting for you. Hopefully that helps!

If you are going into the front of a Vypyr, then you are using the amp modeling on the Vypyr as well as the POD. That could be causing problems, since you now have the Vypyr's gain to deal with as well. If I'm not mistaken, the Vypyr VIP has an aux input, for playing mp3's and stuff, right? If so, try plugging the POD into that and using only the main volume on the Vypyr.

I'll take the HD500x pack for sure.

Thanks for the replies everybody. Some of this is stuff that I did not think of, so I'm glad I asked. I'll keep the stereo stuff as a novelty thing instead of an every song thing.

Hello all. I'm wondering if anybody out there uses either the Ping Pong or Stereo delay for their lead tones (for playing live). I used a Ping Pong delay on my clean tone for one song just to make it an exaggerated, dramatic effect. It was extremely cool and got me thinking that maybe it could work on my everyday lead tones too... if I tone it down a bit. In practice I've tried both the Ping Pong and Stereo and I liked them. Has anybody done this for every song in a gig? Are they too crazy sounding to be used that much? I know there is no right and wrong answer for a question like this. I'm just looking for anybody that might have tried this and either liked or didn't like it.

There is one that I think is called the Pattern Tremolo. You set the depth and speed, and if the depth is high enough it will sound like a kill switch being tapped at a constant tempo. I use it for a tapping type of effect when I play Hey Man, Nice Shot. I have one guitar with a kill switch and one without - when I use the guitar without the kill switch I use the Pattern Tremolo to simulate it. But, it is rhythmic; it isn't a one shot kind of deal. You kick it on and it repeats at that tempo until you kick it back off. I have mine set up so that the pedal controls the speed and depth at the same time, so when I first hit the note there is no effect, then as I rock the pedal down I find a sweet spot where it is just the right speed and depth. Hopefully this helps and doesn't confuse you, lol.

I wanted to thank you all again for the input and suggestions. We had practice again this week and everything sounded better in the room and on the recording I made with my phone. We took a lot of steps to try to help. Starting with lifting the other guitarist's amp off of the floor and putting it on an amp stand. I also cut his mids a bit so that he wasn't competing with his own vocals or my solos as much. I also added a mid focus eq for my "solo tone" that not only gave me the eq but also a volume boost. Just the change in eq helped a lot I think, and the volume boos on the solos was the icing on the cake. Thanks again. You all made me look like I know what I'm doing!

I bought the POD with the same intentions as you. To use the modeling for recording at home and practice by myself, but to use the 4 cable method when I practice with the band or play live. I ended up ditching the amp and going direct into the PA for my band tones too. There was just too much flexibility that I was missing out on. But to answer your question, the POD will work just fine in all of the situations you described. Remember that modeled sounds are modeling what the crowd would hear after you mic and amp and send it through the PA. If you play small enough venues that you don't have to mic your amp, then the tube amp would definitely sound better. If you are micing your amp, then the people watching and listening to you would hear the mic'd amp through the PA, and in that case the POD would sound just as good. As for using it as a multi FX unit, it works just fine after you figure out how to tweak it. But that is life with the POD, you have to learn how to tweak everything. And make sure you have your stuff set up before gig night. You can edit things on the POD if you have to, but you don't want to be building patches during sound check. You'll want to have your stuff mostly sorted out before you hit the stage.

Thanks everybody for the replies! There is a ton of good information here. Honestly, I don't think ego will be a problem. The biggest problem is inexperience, as we are all in our 40's but have only been playing for a few years. This is my first time having another guitarist playing while I'm playing, so this is new to me. The other guitarist is really only playing to try to fill out the sound so I think he will be open to whatever changes we need to make to get this thing to work. Rearranging our setup and putting up bass traps is definitely where I will start. We are all meeting at the practice space to rearrange everything tomorrow. For starters, we have the entire PA plugged into the main outs of the mixer, no monitor mix or anything, and that itself has created some problems. Tomorrow I will make sure one of our speakers is a monitor so we can adjust the mix for the singer to hear himself, and we'll also make sure to get his amp off of the floor. I record all of our practices, but finding a good place to record has been tough. All I use is my iphone on a shelf with one PA pointing at it. One thing I never though of is adjusting my tone for solos. I know it sounds simple, but since I never had a rhythm guitar player it was never really necessary for me. When I play a solo now all I do is go from a very slight delay on my rhythm tone to more delay on my lead tone. I need to add a volume boost, too. I'm thinking maybe I'll cut my rhythm delay completely and only use delay on the solos. I had the delay in there when I was the lone guitarist, but maybe it is doing more harm than good now. Also I'll check the EQ. Maybe scoop his mids a little so that when I solo we're not interfering. If he plays while he's singing, maybe scooping the mids will give him some more room. The power of the EQ is all new to me, believe me. With only one guitar it was just plug in and play. When I solo, should I kick in the mid focus EQ at the end of the chain? Maybe remove some of the high end breakup and give some clarity to the notes? These are great ideas. Thanks, everybody. These are things I probably should have known, but I didn't even know where to start. Now I have lots of things to try.

I have been using my POD for band practice for a little over a year now, always going direct into our mixer and out to our PA speakers. That worked well when I was the only guitar player, but we recently added a second guitar player and now my guitar is getting lost in the mix. Our other guitar player is also our singer, and he doesn't always play while he sings so I'm not constantly competing with him, but it is enough that I have started trying to tweak my tone to compensate. First, his setup is a simple Marshall combo amp (DSL40c). No stomp boxes or anything. My setup is the SLO Crunch model for clean tones with a Line 6 Distortion in front of it for heavy tones, with some delay when I'm playing solos. I have the gain turned down on both of them, and even though I like a bright tone I've tried to trim down the high end because it really became ear splitting when we cranked the volume. I also make sure there is plenty of mid range in my amp model and on the distortion box model. By itself, the guitar tone sounds pretty good to me, even at loud volumes. With the band, clean tones sound ok but when I kick on that distortion it gets lost in the mix. I've tried other distortion and overdrive models in the POD, but this combo is definitely my favorite so I want to make it work if at all possible. I tried putting a mid focus EQ last in my chain, and it trimmed off all of my high end. That made the guitar mix a lot better, but I don't really care for the tone. It almost sounds like I'm listening to my guitar through a tin can or someone threw a towel over the speakers. I tried putting the mid focus EQ before the Distortion box, and that kept some of the brightness of my tone, but I still was hard to hear in the mix. A little more background info: We practice in a basement. We have the Marshall, a bass amp and cab, an acoustic drum kit, my POD, two microphones and 3 PA speakers in this little basement. I'm sure that is making it tough to hear everything, and that leads me to my two questions. 1) if I use my normal, bright guitar tone and we go to a bigger room or outside somewhere, is it reasonable to expect things to sound better? Could the main source of my problem be that there are just too many sound sources in a small room? And 2) should I spend a lot of time tweaking my tone that it sounds good in that basement? I'm afraid that if I get it to sound good there it won't sound good when we go play in a bar. Or is the opposite true, should I make sure it mixes well in that small room so that it sounds even better in a big room? I know this is a broad topic, but I'm hoping some experienced stage players can at least point me in the right direction. I've been fighting with this for a while and I'm getting super frustrated with it.

Last night I decided to try using the SLO distortion model as my main rhythm tone for live playing. Previously I used the SLO clean for clean tones and a Line 6 Distortion pedal for the heavy tone. I loved the sound by itself but it wasn't mixing well with the band, so I'm going back to the drawing board. Here is the current setup I'm trying: Clean tone is a Fender Tweed, chorus and a compressor. The heavy tone is a noise gate and the SLO distortion. I turn the Fender, chorus and compressor OFF, and turn the noise gate and SLO ON by hitting FS4. It works well for the most part, but if there are any notes ringing out when I hit FS4, there is a split second of some crazy noise as everything switches. Is that normal because I'm turning amps on and off, or because I'm changing so many things at the same time? Is there a better way to do this? I thought about using the foot pedal to change the volumes of the amps and using that for switching, but that brings in some other issues. First, I use the pedal for the wah. Second, that wouldn't turn off the compressor and chorus, it would only change the levels of the amps. Third, I sometimes use a pitch glide effect and also use the pedal to control that. If anybody has any suggestions, I would love to hear them.