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  1. Hey man, you seem to be the reference when it comes to Helix/HX Stomp and Midi operation. I have a major problem and it's making me crazy right now. I've tried to narrow it down to finally be able to tell why it's misbehaving, but with no luck... Is there a chance you could give me your opinion? I'll try to lay out my problem and make it as clear as possible....

     

    So I have my HX Stomp setup with about 60 presets (1 song = 1 preset). That one is set to be on Channel 6 (Base channel).

     

    Then I have a midi foot controller, that has 4 switches. It's the Source Audio Soleman. I use it with panel mode, and I put it on Channel 4. It's got only 64 possible panels. So I made several song-specific panels, but also several generic panels to be able to save on the real-estate for future use. 


    So my HX stomp is connected to the Soleman with midi. So... HX Stomp MIDI OUT to Soleman MIDI IN. 

     

    So the goal of this setup is to select a preset on HX Stomp and then the Soleman would automatically go on the right panel for the chosen song. 

     

    So, for all of my presets on the HX Stomp, I went in the Command Center, and programmed all of the PC messages to make this work. It's VERY simple stuff. I understand and know MIDI fairly well. And when programming these, I always did it on Snapshot #1 and SAVED my presets on Snapshot #1, so I'm always certain that the PC message is going to get sent every time that I go change songs on HX Stomp.

     

    Now the problem is this:  it works for like.... 53-54 songs out of 60. Go on Preset #0 on the Stomp, and then it calls the right one on the Soleman, then go to #1, #2, etc. It all works fine,  but THEN.... When I get to specific presets on the Stomp, it sends the PC message like it's supposed to, but then the Soleman stops answering to midi messages. I try to go to other presets on the Stomp to try others, but the Soleman doesn't do anything. It's not frozen, because I can go and do things on it, but it's just NOT receiving midi anymore. Even with the HX Stomp presets that were working just before hitting that "faulty" preset.... The only way to get going again is to unplug the Soleman and make it work again.

     

    I hope this is clear enough... It's hard to get someone to understand what kind of problem I'm dealing with. I haven't played my guitar in a 10 days trying to figure this lollipop out. I'm getting very sick of it. 

     

    Just before you ask, I tried doing a factory reset on my HX Stomp, and it was wondering flawlessly with the factory presets (with the PC commands added). So that's why it's making me think that the problem lies with the Stomp and not the Soleman. 

     

    Anyway, any help is welcome. Thanks buddy! 

     

     

     

     

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    2. AnEscapeKey

      AnEscapeKey

      And to give you any more info, I've just done a factory reset on the Soleman, and the problem still occurs on the same few presets on the Stomp. So it's really a problem related with the Stomp. I just don't get it...

    3. rd2rk

      rd2rk

      If the HXS sends the Soleman a PC message that causes the Soleman to send a PC message to the HXS which causes the HXS to send a PC message to the Soleman.......OR if the Soleman sends a Snapshot Change message, that would re-trigger the Instant Commands re-sending the Program Change message.......

       

      I'd check the way those panels are set up, then check the way the HXS presets are set up and, using a MIDI Monitor, verify what each is sending when. MIDIOX (FREE) is a great MIDI Monitor. Just be sure to set it to Decimal instead of Hex. Even if you read Hex, I don't, so it won't help me to help you.

       

      If everything is sending the way it's supposed to, there's no MIDI loops being created, and it's always the same Soleman Panels/presets causing the problem, it may be that the Soleman is either mis-configured or flat out defective.

       

      You might want to check if there's a FW update for the Soleman, it may be a known issue that FW could resolve.

    4. AnEscapeKey

      AnEscapeKey

      I had already tried all of that. What I am attempting now is to write down all of the parameters of the 5 presets that are causing problems on the HX Stomp. And I'm going to erase them by copying a blank preset. Well, I've already done that, and in each of those 5 new blank presets, I have only added an Amp+Cab block and the correct midi commands in command center. And everything works as it's supposed to. Now let's just hope that after adding all of the correct blocks and snapshot parameters that it doesn't start acting weird again!

      Will let you know of the results. Thanks for the help buddy!

  2. I am fairly certain that there is an issue with MIDI on the 3.0/3.01 on the HX Stomp Command Center. I've been going CRAZY about it. I am trying to sync up a midi controller with a command that set, and it's working half the time. My head is about to explode now, but if there are any midi gurus here, I could go into deeper details. I'm stuck right now. I feel I have tried every combination to rule out other possible culprits, but others may know of better ways to solve this.... Basically, my stomp is set with one preset = one song. I want it to recall certain "panels" on my Soleman Midi controller, that will sometimes have song-specific panels, or other times generic panels. I programmed most of them, but when trying to change from one preset to the other, it works for a few presets, then it stops working and the soleman stops answering to the messages. So weird...
  3. Thanks. I just tried the amp+cab with the FX loop block right after it, and it sounded really good. But again, I might have to sacrifice 3 blocks to do the foh/amp dual output combination thing. I'll have to think about it...! Thanks for the help though!
  4. But using an AMP block (that combiens preamp + poweramp) going into my actual fender amp's poweramp in jack, doesn't that mean it'll have two poweramp stages? I thought that using the preamp of the stomp with the poweramp of my tube amp was the way to go for this kind of situation? And if I wanted to use the Reverb and Delay in one of the loops, how would you wire it up and which loop do I have to take? The FX loop one? This has been very very confusing....
  5. Hi! Sorry about the length of this post... :-/ I bought an HX Stomp a couple weeks ago, and I've been playing around with it, and think it shows great possibilities. I have a midi-controlled board with a few analog pedals that I could discard with a Stomp that I have programmed the right way. However, I'm having a hard time to figure out how to have it do what I need. It may not entirely be possible. If not, you could suggest other possible avenues. So... I do not currently have any FRFR cab. I have done a couple of band practices, with the stomp only for a PREAMP block. My signal chain would be : Tuner --> WHAMMY DT --> Mobius --> Drive pedals --> compressor --> clean boost --> into the STOMP (for the PREAMP) --> Out of the stomp --> Delay --> Reverb --> Power amp IN of my fender amp. When I do it this way, it works. It is simple, so it's obviously working! haha. And, I know I could have used an FX loop kind of cabling method, but I am afraid of running out of blocks on the stomp. And just before you ask, I want to keep my delay and reverb pedals separate, again to save blocks on the Stomp. They are also great pedals and they can be controlled via midi (which I do with the SA Soleman midi-controller). So, what I WANT to do is... I want to be able to practice at home with my headphones. When I have a preset with only a PREAMP block (and not a amp+cab, IR or just a cab block), it sounds thin, because of the poweramp section missing). So, for this problem, what are my alternatives? If I buy a poweramp pedal like the EHX Magnum 44, would have solve my problem? Probably not, as I am plugging in the headphones jack of the stomp.... But, if I use it after my reverb pedal, and connect it through some kind of simple mixer and then connect my headphones through that? Would that work? Also, my other question is... Let's say that I do this signal path: where the Main L/R goes to my amp's poweramp in for the amp on-stage sound, and the SEND L/R to the FOH console. Keep in mind that I put my delay and reverb pedals between the preamp and the poweramp, like in a typical FX loop fashion. But if I want to be able to do it with this way, what kind of loop/wiring would I have to have to be able to send my reverb and delay tones to both the amp and the FOH? And, when connecting headphones, when having a signal path like this one, which one will I hear? The one that ends with the Main L/R o the Send L/R? Thanks so much, and please forgive my ignorance. I am new to this whole digital thing, but I am very close to what I want to do.
  6. That is quite expensive!! i think i’ll just create midi presets that match the stomp’s presets. Overkill, but it will get the job done. Thanks.
  7. going back to what you said... i know it sends PC# corresponding to the preset number on the Stomp but... you have the option to ALWAYS send a pc# or NEVER send anything. Correct? You cannot decide for which presets it will actually send a PC?
  8. Hi, New HX Stomp user here! I'll try to ask this question as clearly as possible.... I know that there is an option to tell the HX Stomp to send a PC command when calling a preset to external midi devices. I was wondering if you could set specific PC commands, depending on WHICH preset you activate? I have a Soleman midi controller (4 footswitches), with many many songs already programmed. Out of 50 songs in our set, maybe 30 need a specific set of presets (combinations of drive pedals, delay/reverb and modulation), and those are already programmed in my Soleman with song sections (verse, chorus, bridge, etc.). The rest of the songs are more "generic" tones, for which I typically use a general set of presets that get me through many songs that "fit" these tones. Now, I would like to create a preset on the HX Stomp for each and every song we play, and have it send a PC message to the Soleman ONLY when I want it to recall the "panel preset" that I already previously programmed. Which would give me greater flexibility and more swtiches to control my other pedals that are midi, but not in the HX Stomp (SA Nemesis, SA Ventris, Whammy 5). Please help. This has been spinnning in my head for days now.....! Ps. My other solution was to do it the other way around, with the Soleman calling presets on the HX Stomp, but it'd mean that I would have to do a lot more programming, and it's not ideal, I think.
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