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Every bit this. Even if the Line 6 Updater does the job - it only sort of does. I mean, as soon as there's traces of HX Edit running in the background, you're out of luck and there's absolutely zero official information - let alone instructions - about how to adress that very issue. Might as well be the problem @willlin is running into. Heck, there's not even any official information about the Line 6 Updater at all in this part of the forum. It's as if it didn't even exist - and yet, most often it's the only cure once you're running into what seems like a bricked unit. The longwinded post I wrote should actually be a nicely formatted post by some Line 6 employee, made sticky for the rest of all times, it's nothing us users should have anything to do with. And of course, ideally there should be some sort of extra security level built into the update via HX Edit - which defenitely can fail quite sometimes, even if you literally follow each and every step of the official instructions (as said, I had it happen myself, and yes, I am perfectly able to read and follow such instructions), so there must be something fishy going on, at least every now and then. In case it's server issues (which I suppose might be the starting point of many messed up updates, it most certainly was in my case), the actual update process should be able to realize that the download was not complete. And in case it's "just" a communication problem between the updating software and the hardware, this should cause the update process to stop, too. Well, it actually does so - but what it should do in any case would be offering an option to revert to the previously installed firmware, which should be temporarily cached by the updater, so there'd be a rollback option without any user action required. Kinda like HX Edit asking "Whoops, we were running into some issues, revert to previous state, yes/no?". And once you pressed "yes", everything would happen automatically, simply because the updater created that temporarily cached backup. Maybe at the end of that failed update, you should be presented a link to the Line 6 Updater and some instructions about how to retry, this time using the "manual" method. Really, so far each and every update has caused hundreds (if not even thousands) of failed attempts. That should be adressed.

Follow all these steps:

I can perfectly understand that - but the cab block's EQ options aren't too capable, so you might need another EQ block in addition, which would make sharing at least as difficult as sharing an IR.

Contact Line 6 directly. Can't imagine they'd be very happy about that. After all, at least in the US, one thing that seemed to set L6 apart from others (not sure whether that is still the case) was their support (has always been extraordinarily bad in Europe, though).

Well, in case you're a certified Line 6 repair shop, it might not be the best move, though. Otherwise, you might not be a Line 6 repair shop much longer...

Yeah, it's gotta be a joke. Same for any vendor, btw. And that's pretty much *the* official service partner of YMMG over here.

Correct. Or maybe rather the tone of another amp/cab. Again correct. Match EQs (or the IRs you might generate from their settings) are just a linear thing, so anything dynamic (such as overdrive and compression) isn't covered. As a result of that, if you want to match whatever the original might be, you'd have to set up your own sound to be as close as possible regarding all things drive "structure" and so on. It certainly also helps to use a similar guitar as in the original sound.

And fwiw, in case someone needs dirac impulses, I can post them.

Quite complicated, IMO. Here's how I do these things: - Use any Match EQ to copy whatever sonic imprint (this is described pretty well in the video). Should work similarily with almost all Match EQs. - Once done, have a track running nothing but that very Match EQ on it. - Place a "dirac" impulse (basically a sharp full frequency spike) on that track and bounce the result. - Just to make sure everything will be working correctly, trim the bounced file. -> There's your matched IR. Note: There's an advanced method as in manipulating an existing IR with a Match EQ, requiring somewhat more pre-select action. Might be worth it, though, simply because even 1024 sample IRs do come with some "distance information" which you will lose when just using a Match EQ.

According to his post, he did that already.

Question: Why would you go through all this (which likely won't turn out too great anway) when you could just create an IR from the Match EQ?

Well, in case the device is stuck already, there's no point in trying with HX Edit again as HX Edit simply won't even connect. To Papug: - Make sure the Stomp is connected directly to your PC, using a quality USB cable. - Make sure you don't sign into your account with the Line 6 Updater. - Obviously make sure the Updater is the latest version and the firmware is the proper revision.

And fwiw, I even wouldn't care if it was nitpicking (which it obviously wasn't) as I'm pretty good at those things myself. Give and take and all that... And fwiw #2: I didn't realize @datacommando mentioned this before already, sorry. Anyway, it's edited now.

Thanks! Quite obviously a typo - and possibly even a fatal one as shutting down HX Native won't help you much with this very issue (as you've mentioned yourself) in case HX Edit would still be running. And yeah, that really needed to be corrected.

Just dissect the presets.

Can't you just reboot?

I'm afraid my answer won't be of much help, but I always thought the process was way too complicated to bother with it. So, I either record a clean DI track and do the rest via HX Native (and btw, you can as well record your "performance part" and the DI track, so you have a good orientation) or just record the performance itself (more below). I also never bothered automating anything, I usually re-amp individual parts, then bounce them to audio and consolidate the various bounces. But: I actually almost completely stopped doing all that. What I usually end up with these days is recording everything either until the spatial FX such as delay and reverb (I just use them for monitoring, works quite well with the Helix) or even just until straight after the amp so I can as well fool around with IRs in my DAW. But generally, I don't go for the latter that often anymore. This way I need to finish complete tracks, avoiding many headaches and a certain amount of procrastination, too.

In case they're isolated outputs you're good to go. The HX Stomp is drawing around 900mA in total, so with 2x500mA you're fine.

Sorry, but I don't even remotely understand what scenario you're trying to describe.

Just give it a try. You might however also want to create a capture without the speaker. All you need to do is to connect the speaker out to a DI box (make sure to connect the "Thru" out to the speaker) and grab the XLR out. You could then use all sorts of IRs on that capture.

Look at the link provided above. Follow all steps.

Precisely. And it goes all the way from just some enhancements to form certain sounds to be better suitable/playable to full stop FX madness. I still remember when I was checking out a laptop setup for some musical gig back in the days (a rather safe thing as everything happened in a cosy orchestra pit). Been using Guitar Rig and while the amps were pretty much lackluster and not even remotely as dynamic as I wanted them to be, that could be adjusted quite a bit by using input level as a modulation source for some parameters (mainly drive but I also modulated the tone stack a bit, from what I remember). At the very same gig, for some underscore moment, I also used a filter modulated by a step envelope, running into 2-3 nested delays, some parameters again being modulated through an expression pedal so I could seamlessly blend between a rather agressive chopped sound and some wobbly delay goodness. Defenitely nothing for the faint hearted, setting just this single patch up so it actually turned into something useable took quite a while. But I guess with a proper modulation matrix things could be done much faster.

He's changed that at least a bit recently. Have a look (in case it doesn't start playing there, go to 24:00):

Thing is, modifiers can be used for all sorts of purposes. Yeah, you can use an LFO controlling filter frequency with the LFO intensity itself being controlled through an expression pedal - and I'd agree that there's not a huge audience for that kinda stuff (Guthrie Govan doesn't mind, though...), but you could as well just use things to, say, increase the dynamics of an amp. Modulate gain with input level and you'll end up with the most dynamic overdrive ever. Want your modulation to only kick in once you pick softer? No problem. And so on. The possibilities are endless.

Guitarists being the most conservative branch of musicians, I'm quite sure hardly anybody is using them - but subtle?!? I could post some things that are as far away from subtle as it gets, maybe using Guitar Rig (which is a modifying/modulation monster) instead of a FAS unit. And yes, I really wish that the HX-verse would offer modifiers/modulators. You can do most incredible stuff with those things.