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  1. marvio

    Can a Tube-Preamp drive a Cab in Helix?

    Cruisionon, Not quite sure I get it? I'm trying a similar thing with an ADA-MP1 I have, and if I do that it sounds like absolute crap, much like plugging the ADA directly into my interface. I understand there is no real anything, it's all modeled, sure, I get it, but just for sake of the argument... In the real world I would either use the ADA through a Power amp or on the effects return of a tube amp, I would do that to get what the tone shaping of the power amp and the end result of this set up is that the sound coming out of the speakers was what ADA intended you to hear. What you suggest here, in real world terms, it to connect the ADA right into a cab, which you can do, and sound comes out, but putting aside actual loudness for a moment, the sound coming out of the CAB directly connected to the ADA is, much like the modeling counterpart, crap, because it doesn't have a power amp to shape the final tone... On the POD HD there were stand alone power amps just for this purpose, but unless I'm missing something I can't find a power amp on the HELIX? Is there a way to put the ADA on the "effect return" of a modeled amp?
  2. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    Regardless of genre, that's an example of an extremely "round" sound to me, like I said, that's way too much on the other extreme, I just need some "hair" off, not almost all of it like this guys :) Coda, Tried the PAD trick, and it definitely helped, also, tried my 30+ year old "lollipop" Kramer, and helped even more! LOL Do you guys find that the guitar affects the tone this much? I've been using a Les Paul standard throughout, but I though :"What the hell, I have all these guitars hanging on my wall..." The ones I liked the best were the Kramer and my N4, both of which have Bill Lawrence L500XL's on the bridge. HUmm, maybe the helix likes those pickups for this mythical round sound I'm looking for?
  3. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    Coda, YES! That's exactly what I mean! :) It's the extra "stuff" at the "edges" of the note I will check that thread out for sure, thanks again man! As an example of the "round", "modern metal sound" I'm talking about? Just take any of the youtubers who do gear reviews, no matter what they play through it all sounds the same! LOL :) Like I said, that is on the other extreme of "round", those sounds are "round" to the point of being boring... Let me see if I can find something quick... This for Example :)
  4. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    Coda, BBD I'm a very pragmatic guy, and I hate for people to miss understand me, that's the only reason I'm posting again. I wasn't trying to fix my "hairy" sample, that tone is just the way I wanted it, super hairy! :) I only posted that sample to exemplify what I meant by hairy, not to try to fix it :) I don't dislike hairy tones, in fact I quite love them, there is something more "real" , "vintage" about them, but sometimes I need a very round sound for modern metal, that is what I wasn't seem to be able to get from any models on the HELIX, I tried a recto, for example, and the "hairiness" was still there... If you think about the current "standard" metal tone, which seems every metal guitarist uses these days, that's more what I'm talking about, "non hairy" that is, now that is way too much for my tastes, as I think the "modern metal tone" is too round, to the point of being boring, but that would be the other extreme from the "hairy" sample I posted Makes nay more sense now? (brain explodes) lol
  5. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    That is another very good suggestion sir! Have lots to do when I get home today :) Thanks Coda And thanks everybody! Rock on!
  6. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    Yeah, maybe the Engl was a bad example, but absolutely, you a right on with the Mesa/SLO, have not tried an EQ before the amp, I've traditionally have put them on the FX loop of real amps and I was trying to replicate that, old habits die hard :) I'll try it when I get home today, thanks Gunpoint
  7. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    Coda, Thank so much for taking the time to do this, you guys are awesome, but I guess I cannot put into words what my ears are hearing? LOL In your example I hear as much "hair" in the beginning as I do in the end, like I said on my last post, "hair" to me is not an EQ thing, it's a gain structure thing, and "hair" is not a bad thing at all, I expect to hear "hair" from a plexi, that's how the gain structure is set up :) The settings on the valve driver were intentional, I wanted a very bright tone, and in that case i did want a very "hairy" tone, I'm not trying to fix that example, I only put it up as a sample of what I meant, my "problem" is that no matter what amp I choose I always get "hair", even on amps that are supposed to have a much rounder/tighter tone, like an Engl , for example. Again, I don't dislike "hair" at all, I use hairy tones all the time to fill in a mix, but I also need something very tight/rounder for fast metal riffage, where that tone in my example would not work 100%, like I said, gain structure not EQ :) Sorry everybody, I feel like I'm being a pain in the lollipop, I swear, I'm a really laid back guy, I'm just not smart enough to translate to words what I'm thinking/hearing I guess! LOL
  8. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    Coda, Hey, thanks man :) The patch is super simple, really nothing to it, this is what the chain is Noise gate (thres -22db, decay 60ms, level 0db) > Valve driver (gain 2.9, bass 0.7, treble 6.5, level 9.8) > Amp - brit plexi jump (brt drv 7.6, nrm drv 7.2, bass 6.9, mid 9.0, trb 7.3, chvol 6.7, pres 7.8, mstr 10, sag 4.4, hum 5.0, ripl 5.0) > IR - Ace marsh 1956V 5a (L-cut 68hz, H-cut 19Khz, mix 100%, lvl -18db) > Hard gate (O Thresh -47db, C thresh -60 db, H-time 10ms, decay 10ms, lvl 0 db)
  9. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    One more try for the guitar only non hairy tone (now shorter, so you don;t have to endure the terrible playing!)LInk to non hairy just guitar because the forums won;t let me upload anymore!
  10. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    Wow! Thanks so much everybody! Lots to think about here! :) I hear you all when you are talking about EQ, and their curves, it can definitely have an effect, and it's true the "not so hairy" sample has a lot less highs, absolutely, but if I may try to explain myself a little further? :) 1- I was by no means saying the "hairy" sample was bad, quite the contrary, I love that tone 2- When I think of "hair", I'm not listening to EQ at all, in my ears at least, one can have a very "hairy" tone which is very dark. Hairy, to me, or at least what I'm referring to, is the very gain type structure of the amp, regardless of how the EQ is set, again, obviously some of it can be helped by EQ , but the gain type/structure itself is still there. That's why I mentioned an Orange as an example of a Hairy amp, that gain structure has a lot of little "tentacles" sprouting off the original harmonics of the sound, if I had to visualize it, if you drew a perfect black circle, filled in, so in the end it's basically a big dot, the non hairy tone would be just that, that big black dot, whereas the hairy tone would have minuscule grey lines coming off of it. Gah! need visual aid! Google to the rescue! So if the perfect non hairy tone is a pure sine wave (which I know it's impossible with a driven tone), a hairy tone would be a super saw wave PS> I don;t know why I posted the whole mix of the non hairy example, sorry , my bad, tried to rectify it on this post but now itown;t let me upload anything more than 64k for some reason?
  11. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    Alright, I think I got this :) The Hairy file was recorded from the Helix, direct into my DAW, I'm using a plexi model with a Hiwat IR. Obviously I expect this to be very "hairy", it's a plexi for crying out loud, but like I said, even choosing amps which are not supposed to be hairy I end up, pretty much, with this result The second "not so hairy" file was recorded with real amps, a blue voodoo 300, a JSX, and a dual rec As I understand it, when I hear "Hair" what I'm hearing are odd order harmonics, and the rounder/less hairy the sound there are more even order harmonics, does that make sense? PS> Go easy on the performance, especially on the second one, those guys couldn't play in tempo if their lives depended on it, and I was always trying to play it in the middle to kinda try to "make it work" Hairy.mp3
  12. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    Thanks for all your replies! I probably should explain it better :) Hair, to me anyway, is not a bad thing at all, it's not high end fizz, or I guess it could be, but not in a bad way... If I had to pick a real amp which is super "Hairy" but also great... The Orange Amps, for example. In contrast with an modern high gain tone like the engls , in general. Know what I mean? Can we upload sample here? Let me see if I can do it....
  13. Thanks Everybody for your response, I didn't have notifications on so I didn't know anybody had :) Returning the guitar huh? I bought it at Sweetwater, not the easiest thing to do.. I found a certified tech near me, talked to Line6, I think I'm going to take it to him? But just before I do, where would the Piezo's be on a Floyd guitar? Again, thanks everybody!
  14. marvio

    Stop the hair!

    Hello everybody, I have recently purchased a Helix, two of them in fact, one floor board for my dream rig, and a rack for my studio. Absolutely love the sounds, but just one thing.... I've gotten some really great overdriven tones out of it, but no matter what I do, which amp/OD stomp?cab/IR I choose, all my tones have a lot of hair on them! Don't get me wrong, I still love them, but sometimes I need some more rounded tones, I've heard them "out there" on Youtube, etc.. Of all things that was not a problem I had with my HD500 (which I still have and love) Any tricks I'm missing? I have also tried to cut the Highs on cabs/IR's put an EQ at the end to no avail Help!
  15. Hello everybody, got possibly a newbee question here... I just got a new JTV89F and in all the models there is this terrible "clanging" noise, it's a ringing clang, it's worse on the wound strings, the low E being the worst, between frets 1-7 on the low E being the absolute worst, it's so bad there that the actual note the string is making i barely audible. This only happens on the models, the magnetic pickups are absolutely fine, either from the 1/4 inch or the CAT5 link cable. Tried raising the bridge as high as it would go to troubleshoot if maybe the strings were fretting, though it sounded just fine with the mag pickups, but nothing, the "clang" is still there. PS> this is not the same "palm muting" issue people talk about, like I said, the noise is so bad that the note itself is barely audible
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