PODHD Chaining - Double The Sales

[joel_brown]

Just a thought but it would be nice if there was a way to chain together multiple PODHDs without having to go through DA/AD conversions like through the FX loop.  It would be nice if we could actually chain two together and run dual amps (one on each) plus whatever effects we want. 

 

Line6 could sell more product by allowing people a scalable solution.  You want it to sound better, just buy more of them.

[duncann]

Well, you could get a pod hd500x and pod hd pro x and connect them using the digital out and in. Rather expensive though, not to mention cumbersome. Might work good for a studio though.

[pianoguyy]

no offense to line6 when I say this: 

 

Instead of buying two or three pods, why not just buy one of the better, more professional grade, units.

[joel_brown]

I can usually find PODs on sale for < $400 or even < $250 used.  Last I looked Kemper was $2k and AXE was $3k.  If I already have a PODHD and I want it to sound better than I can just add another. 

[duncann]

Another problem with >1 pod is if you make a bunch of patches relying on more than one pod and something goes wrong with one of them you might be kind of screwed. I guess the same could be said with only one pod but with two, you're doubly screwed. :lol:

[radatats]

I like the idea of adding to the POD's capabilities to expand your options.  Not sure I want to bring a second 500 with me though.  I have been looking for something to add to my pedal board that would offload some of the DSP and free up more dual amp intensive patches.  I looked at the M5 which would fit and has midi too.  Only issue there is it's only one effect and the bang to buck to DSP wasn't enough for me.  The M9 would be nice but too expensive and won't fit. 

 

I ended up with a Zoom MS-70 CDR.  It is a great unit in a single pedal size that only does Chorus, Delay and Reverb.  It is a stereo unit and also has some other mod type effects and nice EQ.  You can chain up to 6 effects at a time and save 50 preset combinations.  It doesn't have midi but I have seen a hack on YouTube where you can send midi to the USB port so I may try to figure that out at some point.  The effects are really good.  It has 86 built in including a few Line 6 models like Particle verb and many others that the 500 doesn't have.  I put it in the FX loop post amp and use it for all post effects. 

 

I just got it this week so I haven't had a lot of time to play with it but so far I really like what I am hearing.  I will be putting it through the wringer over the next few weeks and I'll post again how it turns out.

 

$120 ... http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MS70CDR

[BillBee]

Yep the MS-70 is pretty sweet. I've used a Ms50 for a dump in bag open mic/jam night box. The Zoom G3 is also pretty packed but its footprint is probably M5 size but it will do 6fx.

 

I really haven't looked into midi too much with the HD but they might be able to be chained off stage (in a vented, fan cooled box/rack) and a 3rd party midi controller used as a master.

 

Does seem like alot of lugging :-)

 

-B

[ColonelForbin]

 through the FX loop. plus whatever effects we want. 

 

I don't use two HD500's, but I sometimes put an M13 in the HD500 effects loop. Depending on how I am outputting, it can be useful if you want to make stereo things occur. I was typically placing the M13 in the end of the Hd500 signal chain, and adding various reverbs, chorus, delays, and various other 'extended' effects.

 

Since the FX loop can be moved on a per patch basis, it can also be bumped into the 'pre' amp model slot, for extra comps, drives, boosts, wahs ,etc.

 

In that concept, you could basically put an HD500 into the FX loop, and using a dual channel patch on the first HD500, assign 'no amp model', then run the FX loop for the second HD500 only in that second no amp model signal chain. The two amp model chains are both in full stereo, so you don't even need to pan them left/right, if you final output is in stereo.

 

From there, if you wanted to add yet more, you could put an M13 into the FX loop of the second HD500, using the configurations I have mentioned. M13 works perfect in the FX loop, sounds fantastic. Definitely an additional A/D D/A conversion, but I don't have any signal issues.

 

This would also make for an interesting use of dual L6Links. You can route one HD500 to a StageSource speakers, and run the other HD500 link to a set of DT amps. The HD500 in the FX loop can be run in a manner which works best for it's link output, while still feeding the first HD500 with a second amp model signal. Seems like overall, it would get very complex quickly.

 

I think what you are thinking, is akin to how you can link two stagesource speakers together using the two Line6Link send and receives.

In this manner, you would line6 link two HD500's together, but then there would still need to be an additional link to send out to the speakers!

 

Try the M13 or M9, you may be able to do much with the extra FX on the outboard M13/M9, so that your DSP on the HD500 can handle the full dual amp models.

 

Or, you could get a JTV and send the VDI to one HD500, and the 1/4" to the other HD500. If you really wanted to get interesting with it, with the VDI signal, define that input as "variax mags", and then send the JTV models through the 1/4" to the other HD500.

 

This would give you two full signal routing options and two Line6Link outputs. One to a DT amp, the other to Stagesource speakers.

 

Electric mags through amp + Acoustic model through full range

[radatats]

The Zoom G3 is also pretty packed but its footprint is probably M5 size but it will do 6fx.

 

The G3 is too big for my board but worse, it does not have stereo in.  It really is a standalone unit.  The MS70 is better suited for insertion into the FX loop.

[BillBee]

Gotcha my man - never use them so Stereo Ins are not on my personal radar. Good to know though.

 

-B