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    Helix DT 25

    In my experience, using L6 link is great but the DT internal amp modeling stays on. What winds up happening is the Helix signal with L6 link is being applied to the front of the amp and then goes through the DT amp modeling in addition to your Helix modeling resulting in a garbage tone. There are NO preamp tubes in the DT 25. The sole 12AX7 is a rectifier for the power section. The DT preamp is all HD500 amp modeling. The best thing I found to do was to either disable the internal amp and cab modeling using something like DT-Edit or just running into the FX return of the DT. That bypasses all the internal DT stuff but is post master so volume must be controlled from the Helix. I see no point in trying to do 4CM with the DT because you are essentially taking a step backwards with the modelling. My best results come when using Helix full amp models, no cab or IR, and using the DT as a fully configurable power section with a real cab. DT is really just a great power amp.
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    DT25 with new HXEffects

    Sorry to hear. Not sure what benefit the Soleman has but you don't need it with HXFX. The Helix midi programming capability is dead simple and more than enough for the DT. Your issues may be related to the pass through. Here's the link to the OSX version of DT Edit: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1228420/DTeditOSX.dmg
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    DT25 with new HXEffects

    DT Edit is a fantastic little program for editing your DT amp. I use a $40 M-Audio UNO usb to midi adapter, no issues. I also program midi in Helix to switch the DT and it works perfectly every time. Dead simple to set up. Can't speak for other controllers but the DT responds to everything I send it.
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    DT25 with new HXEffects

    HX Effects should work perfectly in 4CM with the DT amps. Midi is super easy to program with Helix so you can set up your HXFX patches to pull up the right amp voicing on the DT. Remember, the DT is a 2 channel amp. However, you can load 4 different amp/cab combinations in Path A and B for a total of 8 to choose from. You still have to set the knobs for the 2 you plan on using on Path A and B. If you dial in a Blackface on Path A and the use mid to switch to a Rectifier it will blow the doors off. Best to set a clean amp on one path and a dirty on the other path. If you have a Helix you can absolutely use the L6 link. The problem is that even though the DT and the Helix use the same communication protocol (L6 Link), their basic software architecture is totally different and do not integrate. They never will. The Helix signal is actually running through the DT internal amp and cab models and that sucks. The only solution is to also use a midi cable to connect your DT in addition to the L6 Link. The Helix can send midi commands to the DT to control it. I found the best way to work it is to turn off the internal amp and cab on all 4 voicings on both channel A and B in the DT using DT Edit. I then configured the 4 voicings in channel A to Class A, topology I-IV and channel B to Class AB, topology I-IV. Now all I have to do is send one midi command from Helix to pick the channel and voicing I want for my Helix patch. Nothing changes in the DT. You can use something like DT Edit to configure your DT that way. Once you do that all the knobs on the DT are inactivated except the Master and the Reverb. The DT is basically just a tube power amp now for my Helix. Works great. If you don't like it you can always do a factory reset on the DT back to normal. Your other option is to skip the L6 Link and just go in to the DT FX return bypassing the preamp altogether. If you don't want topology matching that might be the best choice for you. I don't think the DT Master works that way though so the DT is full blast. You would need to control volume from the Helix. Either way, the DT is a fantastic amp for Helix and the Helix models are a big upgrade to the HD modeling.
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    Helix or Helix It for bass

    I'm a guitar player, not bass so... But I have the floor Helix since day one and for me, I use a lot of the I/O options for L6 link, 1/4 outs to amp, XLR to PA, FX loops to pedals. I also use 2 additional expression pedals. If you don't need all that for bass, and I don't think even Geddy would, you will probably be fine with the LT. It still does everything the floor model does, just fewer I/O options really...
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    Help me decide how to use my second expression pedal

    I have two external pedals so one is Exp2 and always volume, the other is Exp 3 and usually does mix for various effects or signal paths. Exp 1 usually does drive or gain on amps or distortion or wah (which I very seldom use).
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    HELIX, When will we get a new firmware update??

    Not looking for new hardware but an upgraded HX version of the models would be fantastic to hook up with Helix. Better DT integration too but that would just be the cream on top...
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    Manual Misprint

    He had a tone?? lol
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    HELIX, When will we get a new firmware update??

    so we're finally getting the Metal Zone??? lol
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    Why do Helix Cabs and IRs Need Low and Hi Cuts?

    That's an interesting concept I will have to try. I'll put a crossover split after the IR in path 1 set to 250k and send to 2A/2B. I'll keep the higher stuff on 2A stereo and the low stuff on 2B mono and see how it comes out... EDIT - made this patch to explore these techniques and a few others. Check it out if you like... http://line6.com/customtone/tone/3280575/
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    DT25-DT50 Remote template

    Any decent cab works well with them. I built my own cabs, 1X12 and a 2X12. You don't need to have the Line 6 cab. You can't run the DT head by L6 link to the L2 cabs. The tube head MUST have a cab attached or it will fry. You could take the cab emulated signal from the direct out to the L2T but you still need a real cab attached too.
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    Helix-DT cab question

    just to add my 2 cents, someone else was asking about the template and I dug into it for them. I wrote a whole post about it at the link below but basically it seems to have been intended to use the 1/4 to the DT FX return, not the L6 link. That's most likely why it doesn't address the DT amp or cab modeling. Using the FX return would bypass all that anyways. Good points above about using cab modeling to match FOH. Personally I don't bother with that but I understand what you are doing. Hope this helps a bit. http://line6.com/support/topic/27590-dt25-dt50-remote-template/?do=findComment&comment=214400
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    DT25-DT50 Remote template

    after studying the template it's really just what it says, remote switching for the DT, not any kind of integration workaround. It's not designed to work with L6 link. It appears they were trying to give you a 2 channel amp setup using the Deluxe in channel A and the Essex in channel B. If you use a 1/4 out into the DT FX return and a midi connection you can use the FS's to configure channels A and B accordingly and FS 8 to switch back and forth. The problem is where they placed the split. It needs to move in front of the Deluxe, not after it. The split should also be changed from a Split Y to a Split A/B and assigned to FS8. That way when you select channel B, the signal routes 100% through the Essex to the DT channel B which you would set for Class A, topo III, and if you select channel A 100% of the signal goes through the Deluxe to the DT channel A which you would set to Class AB, topo I. Just remember that whatever changes you make to the DT with this template are permanent until you make new ones, just like using DT Edit. Should work fine with my suggested changes. Going straight in to the FX return bypasses all internal modeling in the DT anyways. However, the DT Master will be maxed out this way so keep that in mind and all volume control is in the Helix.
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    DT25-DT50 Remote template

    Not that they don't acknowledge the issues about integration or even that they are working on possible solutions. Rather they have never once confirmed or acknowledged or even denied that the Helix signal over L6 link is applied over top of the DT's internal amp and cab modeling unless you specifically turn it off. Not once has Line 6 ever provided those simple instructions that would have saved a lot of users a ton of time and efforts. My observations and workarounds have been proven to work by lots of DT users but still Line 6 hasn't ever adopted them as a simple interim fix. Yes, the template shows how to send midi commands to control class and topology but without any guidance or instructions about turning off the internal modeling its kind of useless, tone wise. Additionally any changes you make with midi are permanent, same as using DT Edit. I haven't seen them mention that either. I've corresponded with DI directly about integration issues but this subject just gets avoided. Its like its something they don't want to admit. Perplexing... As far as the reasons they don't integrate, yes, DI has explained that and I totally understand. Just weird that they haven't pushed a formal, official guide to making it work in the mean time. Leaves room for a lot of confusion in the user base.
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    DT25-DT50 Remote template

    I never even bothered with their template since for some unknown reason they refuse to acknowledge the inherant problems trying to use the Helix with a DT amp using L6 link. Without action on your part the Helix signal is run on top of the DT internal amp/cab modeling. You have to turn off the DT internal amp/cvabs using midi or DT Edit. See the link below to see how I run mine. It works like a champ and eliminates any confusion. Helix through DT is fantastic this way. BTW, I much prefer full amp models over preamps and rarely, if ever, use cab models or IR's to the DT. http://line6.com/support/topic/26901-helix-l6-to-dt50/?do=findComment&comment=208473
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