ericlv Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I was trying to recreate the solo in Like a Stone using the firehawk as a whammy pedal. It has an effect called bender in the synths section. At first this seemed impossible because when you first enter the bender effect (for me at least) you can only control the mix parameter with the FX knob or expression pedal. I looked all over the place to see where I can reassign the pedal to the position parameter, like a whammy pedal. Plus, why would the mix parameter be controlled by the pedal by default? Anyway, I searched for an answer and couldn't find any. So I switched the effect to see how the pedal was controlling other parameters in other effects. Couldn't find a solution there either. So I went back to the bender effect. When I went back, the expression pedal was assigned to the position parameter, like how I wanted it. No idea how it happened... but I was able to publish my attempt at the Like a Stone Solo tone. So does anyone know how to manually change what parameter is assigned to the FX knob or expression pedal? I just got lucky, but would like to know how this can be controlled. THANKS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbeddall Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Just hold your finger down on the parameter you want the pedal to control and a message pops up, make sure you toggle the pedal on also otherwise it's just the fx knob that controls it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bond19 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I was trying to recreate the solo in Like a Stone using the firehawk as a whammy pedal. It has an effect called bender in the synths section. At first this seemed impossible because when you first enter the bender effect (for me at least) you can only control the mix parameter with the FX knob or expression pedal. I looked all over the place to see where I can reassign the pedal to the position parameter, like a whammy pedal. Plus, why would the mix parameter be controlled by the pedal by default? Anyway, I searched for an answer and couldn't find any. So I switched the effect to see how the pedal was controlling other parameters in other effects. Couldn't find a solution there either. So I went back to the bender effect. When I went back, the expression pedal was assigned to the position parameter, like how I wanted it. No idea how it happened... but I was able to publish my attempt at the Like a Stone Solo tone. So does anyone know how to manually change what parameter is assigned to the FX knob or expression pedal? I just got lucky, but would like to know how this can be controlled. THANKS! Good to know- I am building a patch for lonely boy by the black keys, and am thinking I will have to use the bender for the dive bomb riff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericlv Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Just hold your finger down on the parameter you want the pedal to control and a message pops up, make sure you toggle the pedal on also otherwise it's just the fx knob that controls it Thanks mcbeddall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bneub111 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but when I use the bender it is about 1/4 step flat. I have set the heel at zero and the toe at + several different steps. I've also set the heel and toe the same. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbeddall Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Where you set the pedal in the app there is a horizontal bar and you can slide it in or out at either side (lengthen or shorten it) I have no idea what it does but that might be your problem, try lengthening it as far as it goes as it may restrict how far the pedal senses travel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Where you set the pedal in the app there is a horizontal bar and you can slide it in or out at either side (lengthen or shorten it) I have no idea what it does but that might be your problem, try lengthening it as far as it goes as it may restrict how far the pedal senses travel I believe that horizontal bar allows you to set the min and max positions for the pedal or FX knob assigned to the selected FX parameter. It operates like a visual range selector with 0% full left and 100% full right. Position the desired min (heel) and max (toe) visually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bond19 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Just created a patch for black keys lonely boy, which has the pitch drop using the pedal- the bender works great once you figure it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msheda Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 My question is the opposite, how do I un map a "tweak" from the pedal (other than just turning it off, or is that the only way?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bond19 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Move the asign to pedal toggle to off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmclee Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 In M13, you can change more than one parameters simultaneously using an expression pedal. For instance, you can increase the 'drive' while decreasing 'gain' or 'volume' of the classic distortion, so as to keep the same output but to change the overdrive parameter. It is extremely useful during a solo such as last few measures of the 'Panama' by Van Halen. I have found that you can change only one parameter in the Firehawk even using an external expression pedal, so you cannot do what you could do in M13. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbeddall Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 You'd need a hd500 for that level of flexibility, I don't think the Firehawk will ever do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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